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~~The new law in New York does not outlaw magazines that hold more than 7 rounds~~. You can still own a magazine that holds up to ten. It’s just that if you put more than 7 rounds in the magazine, you’re a criminal. This has to be the most laughably ridiculous things I’ve ever seen come from the anti-gunners. Does anyone seriously think criminals and mass shooters are going to even be remotely concerned?

UPDATE: Upon more careful reading of the statute, it does indeed ban magazines that hold more than 7 rounds. There is no grandfathering for magazines that have more than ten rounds. Those are contraband. You have a year to get rid of them or become a criminal. There is grandfathering for 8-10 round magazines, you just may not put more than 7 rounds in them, or you become a criminal. I should note that this isn’t just magazines. This is now an illegal item in New York:

So is this:

If you have any belts with more than 7 rounds on them, they are illegal. In fact, because it covers “readily restored” as well, any belt links at all, if you have more than enough to string 7 rounds together, are now contraband. Blocking would also seem to be out, because it could be readily restore to shoot more than 7 rounds.

UPDATE: Bill here. The stuff in CAPS is changes. You will note there is a C&R exception, but if it can be used in a replica rifle, it doesn’t apply by my reading. So it’s a useless exemption.

Capitalism

Tam offers an important lesson:

Meanwhile, I will point out a basic bit of Capitalism 101: If Seller Sam asks $100 for a 50rd box of Remchester .22LR, and Buyer Bob gives him $100 for it,Â thenÂ the price of a 50rd box of Remchester .22LR in that place, at that time, is $100.

It’s killed me that some of the same folks who were excoriating Obama for being a socialist were some of the first to scream “PRICE GOUGING!” when the law of supply and demand started to work its magic. If demand goes up, and price does not follow with it, you get a shortage. A lot of vendors didn’t want to be accused of that, and did not raise prices. So how’s that new AR you just bought? What about the 1000 rounds of .223? Yeah… shortage.

Thoughts for Liberal New Yorkers

Don’t you think you might have bigger problem than guns and people putting more than 7 rounds in a magazine when your legislature can apparently draft legislation in smoke filled rooms, vote on the final product with 30 minutes notice, and get everything all wrapped up before the public has had a chance to sip their morning coffee? I mean, I get we’re not a democracy, but don’t you think there’s something vaguely wrong about lawmakers passing a bill before the public even has an idea what’s in it because the Governor says it’s an “emergency?” I would think this is something the left and the right can agree on.

And what does it say about their confidence in gun control that they feel they need to accomplish everything quickly, before the public has a chance to mobilize, and, I don’t know, maybe carefully consider the bill? Hear all sides? This wasn’t a conversation on guns. They don’t want a conversation, and that has been abundantly clear since this whole farce began.

Senator Greg Ball of NY on The #2A Sellout

“Goodnight, and I voted No, and I only wish, I could have done it twice”:

Tomorrow I will talk about next steps for New Yorkers. Governor Cuomo shut democracy, and the voice of gun owners, down tonight. We must not let that happen again. There will soon be a time to be heard in New York, as we fight this in the federal courts.

Here We Go in Maryland

O’Malley is getting behind gun control too. Part of the strategy would appear to be to try to run us ragged fighting in blue states. Hopefully the Maryland legislature doesn’t allow the kind of corrupt smoke-filled-room type deals we just witnessed in New York. Andrew Cuomo won in New York because he shut down the Democratic process. If we get a chance to fight, we can fight. We didn’t lose Illinois, and I certainly don’t want to lose Maryland.

Deal Reached in New York?

The Huffington Post has some details. Other articles talk about Republicans having reservation. Remember folks:

7 round limit on magazines. No grandfathering.
One feature test. Most modern semi-automatic firearms banned. Limited grandfathering. Registration for all.
No due process for mental health prohibitions. A physician can get you prohibited.
NICS checks for ammo. No online ammo sales.

Get calling, if you live in New York. Note how they are doing all of this behind closed doors and trying to ram it through quickly? They learned from Illinois.

UPDATE: More here

UPDATE: Sold outÂ by the Republicans. I’m sorry New York. 43-18 in the Senate. The Senate was really the only chance to stop this.

Brady Campaign Raises 5 Million

Well, for a while they were running out of money. This is about double what they made in all of 2010. Once people start thinking gun control isn’t a lost cause, they are more willing to send checks. We’re in this for the long haul.

Another Good Sign from Congress

Reid doesn’t seem too crazy about the idea of gun control, and is signaling so publicly. I think it’s good to get a little breathing room, but it’s not time to stand down yet. Not by a long shot. This still hasn’t even really started yet.

Obama’s 19 Actions

Apparently Biden is recommending nineteen actions Obama should take through executive order.Â I want to talk briefly about executive orders, because there’s a lot of FUD floating around on the Internets about them.

For one, it’s not an end-run around Congress. Under the Gun Control Act, Congress has already granted authority to the executive branch to execute certain aspects of federal gun laws. The President’s power on this is, unfortunately, fairly broad, but it is not unlimited. For instance, only firearms and ammunition that are “particularly suitable for sporting purposes,” are permitted to be imported into the United States. The executive branch gets to decide what determines that.

We already likely know what some of those 19 recommendations will be because Bloomberg spent all that time and money hiring consultants to hammer them out ahead of time. They can do serious damage without any action from Congress. This is truth. But it’s not some kind of crazy power grab. We’ve benefitted, since the Gun Control Act, from having Presidents who were not that disposed to use the executive power to really screw us.

It’s a little known fact, but almost all shotguns in the United States would be classified as destructive devices except for the fact that most shotguns have been classified by the Attorney General as particularly suitable for sporting purposes. That classification can be changed. The Striker-12 was reclassified along these lines by the Clinton Administration, and is now a destructive device.

It’s quite possible that President Obama will enact sweeping and wide ranging changes to our firearms regulations and policies, and force us to spend millions of dollars suing the Administration in court over every separate issue. We could be in for a rough ride, indeed.

Votes Are Shaping Up?

NRA seems pretty confident they can stop the worst of what’s coming at us, or at least David Keene is. I would not let this lull us into any complacency. We still have a fight ahead of us, and numbers like what we’re seeing out of some recent polls are concerning. If Obama piles on, these numbers are bound to shift more. Complacency is our worst enemy. Like many of us gun bloggers have been saying, if every person panic buying guns and ammo also wrote their reps, we’d have nothing to worry about. But they won’t, so those of us willing to do something have to make up for those who won’t. They can’t be given any victory, because any victory given will be used to build upon the next victory when they get their next pretext. The snowball will begin to roll. A lot of people will ask why we just won’t be reasonable, well, because in politics, being reasonable is what gets you squashed.