Can Any LTC Info Be Public?

I’m very much against an individual’s name, address, or any other part of carry licenses that identify an individual being a matter of public record, but some info I think is good to have as public record. For instance:

  1. Number of licenses issued by an authority
  2. Number of licenses revoked by authority
  3. Aggregated demographic info of license holders
  4. Number of licenses denied
  5. Crimes committed by license holders

I think all these things serve a legitimate public interest and so I have no problem with them being public. It’s mostly a matter of making sure people with guns that could be stolen, or people hiding from violent ex’s, who might be the reason they sought a license to carry in the first place, aren’t getting their information published in newspapers so the bad guys know exactly where to find them.

Bucks County: “Not Public Record”

PA License to Carry information is not considered public record by Bucks County.

UPDATE: Still waiting to hear from Delaware County, Montgomery County, and the City of Philadelphia.   Chances are if none of them will release, no one else will either.   I might check with Allegheny County, where Pittsburgh is located, because they issue more LTCs than any other jurisdiction in the country.

Response from Chester County

Chester County is the county that issued my current PA LTC, so I was most interested in their response:

We do not disclose that information.

Cpl. Joe Kusnersyk
Chester County Office of Sheriff
17 N Church St.
West Chester, Pa. 19380

Kudos to the Chester County Sheriff’s office for keeping LTC holder information private.  I will have to contact Bucks County, who I have to renew with, as they are my current county of residence, to ensure they follow the same policy.

Project “Is Your LTC Info Private”

After the debacle involving the Roanoke Times, I’ve decided to contact some of the local county sheriffs to see whether they would release LTC holder info to reporters. I’ll be relaying what they say as I get a hold of them.

One stunning thing is that most of the Sheriffs in Pennsylvania don’t seem to have e-mail contact info. This is the 21st century people. Time to get with the times!

Drinking and Packing

Dredged from the archives at What Would John Wayne Do!

I know that a lot of us carry firearms for personal protection, which had led me to wonder about the title of the thread. When you’re carrying, do you imbibe? Obviously, we all know that you shouldn’t drink and drive, but what about drinking and packing?

Please note, I am not a legal expert, and nothing I say should be construed as legal advice or counsel, please feel free to ignore me, and heed me only at your own risk.

Okay, now that I got that out of the way, let us look at the particulars of drinking and packing.

First thing we all know is that alcohol and firearms don’t mix. I can personally say I’ve had that pounded into my head for years, and the 2 alcohol related firearms accidents I’ve been witness to have reinforced that feeling. So, we can eliminate getting drunk and carrying; I think everyone’s okay with that.

Let’s imagine a hypothetical situation. You and the missus go out for dinner and a movie. At dinner, you have two drinks. Being a man of decent size and pacing yourself, two drinks does not raise your BAC above the legal limit, nor impair your judgment (you think). On your way to your vehicle, you are confronted and blah blah blah, you end up plugging some citizen who wanted to lighten you and wife of your goods. When the police officer shows up, how do you think his reaction will be if he smells alcohol on you? Now imagine the same scenario, except you are sober as a Baptist preacher on Sunday.

My feeling is that if I’m planning on having a few drinks, I leave the pistol at home; better yet so that I don’t have to go around unarmed, I don’t drink when I’m out. Plus, it saves me a tonne of money; buying booze from a liquor store and drinking at home is a lot less expensive. A great way to kill two birds with one stone is to volunteer to be the designated driver. I do this a lot as it allows me to stay sober, stay armed, and I get to laugh at the antics of all my drunk friends. I call that a win-win situation.

There are some states that forbid CCW holders from imbibing while they are in public and armed, some states don’t permit CCW holders to bring their firearms into bars. Know your local laws regarding weapons and alcohol before you do anything.

And remember that alcohol and firearms don’t mix.

It felt like this was especially appropriate as St. Patty’s Day is tomorrow. Indiana (where I love) has no prohibitions on carrying concealed in bars; I’ll be the designated driver for tonight’s St. Practice Day festivities, pretty much for the reasons stated above.

“Arrested” in Jayton, TX

Bitter and I had an interesting encounter with “the man”, namely the Kent County Sheriff’s deputy (and when I say the, I mean he’s the only Kent County Sheriff’s deputy).   Carrie and her mom wanted to use the library for a bit, so Bitter and I stayed out in the parking lot to wait, and took out our laptops to catch up on things.  Well, it would seem some old lady in the library noticed the Maryland tags on the rental and called it in.   The deputy blocked us in, came up, and started asking questions.  Since Texas is a notify state, I needed to inform him I was carrying, but he asked before I got it out on my own.   I turned over my driver’s license, Florida and Pennsylvania LTCs.  He had me unload Bitter’s Sig 239 and hand it to him.   Bitter was unhappy that the deputy took her pistol, which is an understatement, as she immediately got on the phone to formerly Bitter Boy, who is an attorney.  Technically, because we weren’t free to leave, it was a brief arrest, but it ended with my LTCs, our IDs and pistols being turned back, and the deputy couldn’t have been more polite and friendly.

Generally, I agree with Bitter that police officers shouldn’t seize people’s firearms, even for brief periods, once it’s known they have a LTC.  But it goes on record as the only time since I’ve been carrying (which is about 5 years), that I’ve ever had to show my LTC to a law enforcement officer.  I’m glad this one was more friendly than hard nosed, and the incident ended without feathers being too ruffled.  I might blog about this later when I get back.

1935 Beretta

I have recently returned from the range, and before I begin with reviewing the little C&R pistol I just shot, let me tell you it is nice to be shooting at an outdoor range again. With the exception of two ranges (the NRA HQ range and the range at USMA at West Point) I despise with indoor ranges with a fiery burning passion. Anyway, on to the Beretta.

A little history, first. The 1935 Beretta is a .32 ACP blowback operated semi-automatic pistol that was used as the primary sidearm of the Italian Air Force and Navy during WWII and up until the 1951 Beretta was adopted. Functionally, it is exactly the same as its bigger brother, the ’34 Beretta, which is chambered for the larger .380 ACP cartridge. During WWII, the ’35 Beretta was also found with German officers, and was popular with GIs as a capture item, who were fond of its light weight, simplicity, and durability.

I picked mine up off of Gunbroker, and my first impression was very favorable. Mine was manufactured in the 50s, so it’s collector value is low – but I didn’t buy it to have it sit on a shelf. I was also pleasantly surprised to find out that this is the easiest firearm to field-strip that I have ever owned in my life. Drop the mag, lock the slide to the rear, pull the barrel out of the “Beretta” slot in the slide, then unlock the slide and pull it off the front of the weapon. Done. I can literally take it apart and put it back together again in under 20 seconds, it’s that easy.

So, off to the range I went with it. I wasn’t planning on carrying this gun for serious social work, as it’s got a very annoying safety that has to be rotated 180 degrees to bring the weapon into battery; the safety is also in an awkward position to manipulate. At the range I had a box of Speer Gold Dots (20 rounds), and a box of good old Winchester white box (50). All shots were fired at seven yards, due to the rather rudimentary sights on the old gun.

The very first round failed to feed from the magazine, it went nose up. The 50 year old spring was apparently still going strong – good for it. Once I figured out to just load 6 rounds, the gun ran fine on the WWB ammo. Group size at 7 yards isn’t really worth mentioning, however I was able to keep rapid fire strings in the A zone of an IDPA target. The only time the pistol failed to run properly was with the Gold Dots (which is too bad), as the hollowpoint nose would sometimes snag on the ramp. I could fix this if I wanted to carry the gun, but since I’m just going to use it for busting dirt clods on the farm, I’m not too worried.

Ejection was clean and positive; the extractor is located on the top of the pistol so empties would often land in my hair, a mildly disconcerting side effect for someone who shoots mostly revolvers. Recoil was mild to nonexistent, and once I figured out where to put my mitts on the thing, the slide didn’t bite my hand.

All in all, this gun is one of those guns that you don’t really own for any good reason, other than it’s a lot of fun to burn ammo with it. Which, when I think about it is more than reason enough. I did have one thought about the little Beretta, however. Due the fact that it’s very user friendly, accurate, and easy to field-strip, I think with one design tweak (that damn safety), this would make an excellent carry gun. Actually, I’d like to see that. Make the safety more like the type on your 1911s; chamber the pistols in either .32 ACP or .380 ACP and they would sell like hotcakes, I guarantee that. A pistol like that would be able to give the Bersa Thunder a run for its money in the “economy sub-caliber” market.

I’d buy two.

History of Maryland Concealed Weapon Laws

Clayton Cramer has a good history of Maryland’s concealed carry history up on his site.  As one might expect, the roots of this law, like most other southern states prohibitions against carrying weapons, were aimed squarely at blacks, and were rarely enforced against whites.

A Suggestion for Merriam-Webster

A new verb for the English language:

Fopaing [fohpahing] verb
1.  The act of driving through a state, possibly at excessive speeds, while transporting firearms in a vehicle that are not otherwise legal in that state, and thus relying on § 926A of the Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986 to keep you out of prison.

FOPA Oddities

I’m going to be relying on FOPA this evening to keep me out of trouble with the State of Maryland. I was reviewing § 926A, when I noticed something:

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

Emphasis mine.  So by this definition, if you can’t also lawfully carry the firearm at the source and destination, does that render FOPA protections null and void?  It doesn’t seem to say possess or carry, it says possess and carry.  Now, as it stands, I can lawfully carry in both Pennsylvania and my destination, but if I were going to say, West Virginia, where I cannot legally carry on my foreign licenses, could I be in trouble?

Also, I’ve wondered if I was going through CT on the way to NH, and had a licensed loaded pistol on my person, but was carrying an “assault weapon” (illegal in CT) in the trunk in compliance with FOPA, would the possession of the loaded pistol, outside of FOPA compliance, but in compliance with CT law, render FOPA protection for the assault weapon null and void?

I can see a lot of room in this law for an anti-gun prosecutor to drive a truck in order to attempt to run over an otherwise lawful gun owner.  If anyone out there reads and is a lawyer, I’d certainly like to know if any of the scenarios I just threw out there would be a plausible reading of this law.

Meanwhile, I’ll keep the needle on 65/55 the whole time I’m in Maryland.