The 6.8SPC Experience

A reader asked me to relay my experience with the 6.8 Special Purpose Cartridge, since I shot the high-power match at my club with the 6.8 upper.  I bought the upper a few years ago at the Gun Blogger Rendezvous, because Uncle had brought it out on behalf of Ko-Tonics (who are no longer in business).

I shot a high-power match this weekend with it, since I had plenty of 6.8x43mm loaded up, and didn’t feel like loading up any 5.56.  We had a Garand match first.  Shot decently with that, with a 250 out of 300.  Shot awful with the 6.8 AR, but that was my fault, not the gun or the cartridge.  My impressions of 6.8:

  • The recoil is heavier than 5.56x45mm, but it’s not nearly as much as a 7.62x51mm.  On the loads I use, it only has about two more grains of powder than the 5.56 loads I make with the same powder.
  • Shooting a match out to 200 yards, like we do at my club, there’s no perceptible difference between 5.56x45mm and 6.8x43mm.  I think you’re probably at a disadvantage because of the heavier recoil of the 6.8x43mm.
  • Shooting out to 400 yards, I can’t say I have much experience with the 6.8, but when I’ve had the opportunity to do it, the 6.8 seems to hit more reliably at that distance than 5.56x45mm.
  • Past that distance, you’re really beyond what an intermediate cartridge is meant for without using specialized bullets and loads.  High-power shooters that shoot a full 600 yard match use special loads and bullets that are too long to even be loaded into a magazine properly, which is fine for slow-fire stages.
  • The 6.8 SPC round would be effective at hunting medium sized game, if that’s what you’re interested in.  The bullet you use is identical to the .270 Winchester, although it’s not as powerful a round as would be used in deer hunting, but at distances you’d typically take a deer from, it would be effective.

I think 6.8SPC would make a good round for replacement of the 5.56×45, if the military ever decides to go the route of a larger caliber intermediate cartridge.  I’m more skeptical of its utility in high-power competition, because I’m not sure what advantage it offers over 5.56.  Keep in mind that my club only goes out to 200 yards, so others who might have more experience with longer range shooting might have a different impression.  I can’t speak to it’s performance vs. 5.56x45mm out past that distance, because I just don’t have much experience with it.

If you’re interesting in getting yourself a 6.8 SPC upper, or making yourself a complete 6.8 AR, Bison armory is a good supplier.

Blogger Meet Good Fun

I want to thank Wyatt, Captain America, Dod, Cemetery, The Geek, Dave, and Smite for coming out on a hot, humid july day (the only hot humid day all year practically) to the Philly Area Blogger Meet.  Much fun was had, chick drinks drank, and hippies smote (or is that smited?).  Well, we didn’t actually see any hippies to smite at the Cheeseburger in Paradise.  I mean, it’s Cheeseburger in Paradise, not Tofuburger in Paradise.  I’m pretty sure that wouldn’t be paradise anyway, even with plenty of chick drinks on the menu.  We’ll have to be sure to do that again sometime in the fall.

Busy Weekend

Too much to do this weekend.  There’s a high-power match at the club tomorrow, so I had to pull the Garand and the AR out of mothballs.  I haven’t shot anything more than .22LR since May, and it showed in my shooting.  On the bench I was pleased with how my Garand loads shot.  Nice groups.  Same with my 6.8SPC load that I never got around to testing.  I’m going to shoot the 6.8 tomorrow, largely because it’s one caliber I have enough cartridges already loaded that I don’t have to spend all night loading up .223 rounnds.

On top of that, I also have to get my new workstation, which I will also use to run the blog, prepped and ready.  X-Plane is working fine.  I copied over MythTV from the old box, but still have to make that work.  Then after I’m confident the system is good, transfer all the blogs and web sites I’m hosting for various people over to the new system.

Tomorrow afternoon we have a Philly blogger meet, at 1PM.  It’s going to be cutting to close with my match.  Hopefully we’ll have everything wrapped up by noon.  If not, Bitter will have to head over there on her own, and I’ll join up when I’m finished with the match.

A Divided House: The Case for Federal Intervention

I consider myself a committed federalist.  To many people today, that means you favor state power at the expense of federal power.  That is usually true.  But a true federalist believes in a balance of state and federal power, as established in our Constitution.  We can argue about whether Congress’ interstate commerce powers extend to this or that, or whether Congress really has a general spending power, but since the Fourteenth Amendment was passed in 1868, Congress’ has been empowered to protect the constitutional rights of its citizens.  It has exercised this power more than a few times, first in the Civil Rights Acts of 1866, then 1871, 1875, 1957, 1960, and finally 1964, the former three establishing civil rights for freed slaves, and the latter three aimed at ending racial segregation in the South.  Protecting the rights of Americans against state abuses is one of the most important powers delegated by the Constitution to Congress, and it is with this in mind that I decided to support the Thune Amendment to force reciprocity on the states.

I’m generally not all that receptive to arguments based on what Congress might do.  Congress might turn around and ban guns entirely tomorrow.  It could attempt to impose restrictions on concealed carry between states right now if it wanted to. Crippling ourselves over what Congress might do in the future seems foolish to me.  But putting that aside, here’s why I think Congress needs to be involved in this area.

The Supreme Court is going to decide very soon whether or not the Second Amendment applies to the states through the Fourteenth Amendment.  While the Court has placed limits on how Congress may exercise it’s Section 5 powers under the fourteenth amendment, there’s nothing prohibiting Congress from assuming incorporation is already fact, and exercising its powers along the lines outlined in the Heller decision, which said the Second Amendment “guarantee[s] the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation.”  In fact, having Congress do so may actually help the case for incorporation, as the Court may prove to be reluctant to second guess Congress.  More importantly, it would serve as encouragement for the federal courts, which tend to be more deferential to Congressional authority than they probably ought to be, to take a more active and less cautious role in protecting the Second Amendment rights of the citizenry.  Consider that once the federal courts begin to establish the scope of the Second Amendment right under the Fourteenth Amendment, Congress will no longer be able to have influence over its scope.  I think it might be beneficial over the long run to have Congress, which we have much more influence over than the courts, to charge in and lead the way.

I also believe that Congressional intervention may be the only way the citizens of New York, California, New Jersey, and all the other restrictive states might ever get their gun rights back.  Consider New Jersey, for instance.  Take any one law in New Jersey, and held out on its own it might seem reasonable, and might even be upheld in Court.  The problem with New Jersey is largely that it’s gun laws, taken as a whole, are intended entirely and solely to discourage law abiding people from exercising their rights, and to put those who dare at grave legal risk of walking outside of one of the exemptions and becoming a felon. The only entity that can fix this whole body of law quickly is Congress, through the exercise of its Section 5 power under the Fourteenth Amendment. Sure, there’s nothing to prevent the Court from coming in later and saying Congress got it wrong, but at least it puts the Court in the position of having to go against the will of Congress, which it might be reluctant to do.

While I understand that there’s a risk to setting a precident for Congress meddling with right-to-carry, and I am sure to receive endless barrages of “I told you so” should federal licensing standards ever come to pass, I think having Congress begin taking on its role under the Fourteenth Amendment is a smart strategic move.  We have considerably more influence over the lawmaking process than we do over the courts.  We need a strong three branch strategy toward realizing a positive outcome for the Second Amendment rights of all Americans, whether Californian or Texan, New Jerseyan or Oklahoman, Montanan or Bay Stater.  Congressional intervention under Section 5 of the Fourteenth Amendment is an important component of that.

A Divided House

There’s a lot of debate within the pro-gun community about whether involving Congress in gun issues like reciprocity is really a wise idea.  Many in the community have expressed skepticism about the idea, and many are downright opposed to setting a precedent for Congress to involve itself.  While Bitter helped politically to support the bill, she’s one of the folks who’s skeptical of the notion that Congress should have a role here, since it might set Congress on a path of interfering with the Second Amendment in ways we don’t appreciate..  I understand those who are skeptical, but generally believe Congress has an obligation to protect the rights of American citizens under the 14th Amendment, and don’t mind it taking a more activist role in this area.

We have decided to present a series of arguments, with Bitter taking the side of the skeptics, and me taking the side of the proponents of federal involvement.  Bitter, after all, is from the South, and distantly related to Jefferson Davis.  And I’ve lived all my life in the area where many of the drafters of the 14th Amendment came from.  Bitter will do the first post, and I will follow.

Questioning the VPC

The Oklahoman is expressing some skepticism of VPC’s study about concealed carry license holders in an editorial:

What VPC doesn’t say is how many of the victims were, like Ersland’s target, killed in the act of committing a crime.

Nor can anyone say how many deaths have been prevented because of the huge number of concealed carry permit holders.

No, it doesn’t say.  And they are hoping no one will look all that closely at their claims.

Biased Much?

From the Lancaster Intelligencer Journal:

Yes, it is a win, but if you’re sickened by gun violence and the NRA’s over-the-top extremism in the defense of the gun industry and, I suppose, the Second Amendment, it’s not time to relax.

He then goes on to advocate more citizens get involved weakening preemption state wide.  Keep in mind this is not an editorial, but supposedly a news article about the NRA challenges to Pittsburgh’s Lost & Stolen.

Although a statement like this clearly does not belong in a news article at all, I’m willing to accept when people don’t agree with the NRA.  But it really pisses me off when they suggest that NRA represents the “gun industry,” because it dismisses the fact that millions of American citizens have a legitimate interest that NRA is looking after.  The anti-gun folks always want to talk about having a conversation with us about gun violence, but before you can have that conversation, you have to accept we exist.  As long as they believe NRA is nothing more than fat cats in smoke filled rooms, talking about how we can jack up the profits of the gun business, there’s no room for conversation.  The only way I can oppose someone who believes that is by opposing everything they do.

UPDATE: Compare that to the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, who at least has the decency to put this in an editorial section:

The best way to celebrate this news may be to emphasize the larger point — that Pittsburgh, Philadelphia and a growing number of other communities are standing up for the right to regulate guns according to their own situations and needs. Lawmakers in Harrisburg should take note and pass a state law making such suits by the NRA hopeless.

Preemption is a bedrock issue when it comes to the right to keep and bear arms.  We will waste no effort in fighting any attempts to weaken it.

Not Many Chickens Killed Yet

Took the Mata Gallina out to our Thursday league match tonight.  Just got the pellets a few hours before so I had no time to sight in. Only got a few chickens.  Bitter came with and snapped a pic of me shooting chickens with the taco grip typical for shooting Silhouette.

Shooting Mata Gallina

I had to do it on the fly on a windy rainy night.  Still need to work on it a bit.  Bitter ended up shooting a 14 in a 60 animal match, with open sights.  She really did quite good for a first time shooting air pistol.  It’s not an easy sport, and I gave her a gun with a half empty CO2 cartridge in an attempt to sabotage her, but it didn’t work too well!

I can see why Rowland prefers the .22.  For one, when the CO2 is dropping, the gun sounds and feels different.  For two, you can actually see a .22 pellet headed downrange under more lighting circumstances than you can see a .177 pellet, so you can do Kentucky windage better.  If it hadn’t been for being able to see the pellet, I wouldn’t have hit much of anything tonight.