No Questions Asked?

Paul says anyone can go into any gun show and buy a gun no questions asked, despite the fact that their own video repeatedly shows sellers asking questions about residency and age in order to assess whether or not sellers are eligible, which require sales to be to residents of the same state, and be over 18 years old. Private sellers are unable to run background checks on buyers by law.

More on the Missouri Supreme Court Decision

I had a nagging feeling that I had read about the topic of my previous post, intoxicated possession at home, before. Sure enough, managed to find this in Eugene Volokh’s Law Review article that discusses a framework for implementing the Second Amendment (Original post at Volokh.com here):

Many states bar possession of a firearm while intoxicated. Now a drunk man may need self-defense as much as the rest of us, and perhaps even more.385 But he is also especially likely to endanger innocent people—whether bystanders or people whom he mistakenly identifies as threatening him—and he is especially unlikely to successfully defend himself.386 And to the extent that the scope of the right to bear arms has historically excluded the mentally infirm, there seems to be little reason to treat those who are briefly mentally infirm as a result of intoxication differently from those who are permanently mentally infirm as a result of illness or retardation.387

A difficulty would arise if the law covered not just gun handling or carrying, but gun possession in the home while the homeowner is home and intoxicated. If every gun owner becomes a felon when he drinks too much at home, or must somehow find a friend who will soberly store the gun elsewhere on such occasions,388 then millions of people will be felons.389

It’s not entirely clear how this problem fits with the constitutional framework outlined above. My inclination is to say that while there may be a strong enough tradition of treating the mentally infirm as too unreliable to possess guns, and the tradition might extend to treating the temporarily mentally infirm as similarly too unreliable, the tradition likely doesn’t extend to a usually sober person’s possession of a gun in his home while he’s drunk. I would also think that requiring gun owners to refrain from normally accepted social drinking practices, to do all their serious drinking outside the home, or to temporarily move their guns outside their homes on party nights creates a substantial burden. But at the same time people can avoid or sharply decrease this burden by entirely or largely refraining from a behavior that, while legal and socially acceptable, is hardly necessary or praiseworthy; perhaps that should affect our judgment about the burden’s substantiality.

Fortunately we can largely avoid this issue, at least for now, since nearly all the statutes on the subject cover only “carry[ing]” or “personal possession.”390 The one exception that I’ve seen, the Missouri statute stating that a person is guilty of a crime if he knowingly “[p]ossesses or discharges a firearm or projectile weapon while intoxicated,”391 is likely just inartfully drafted: Though accompa- nying statutes use “possesses” broadly, likely broadly enough to include storing inside one’s home,392 this statute is labeled “Unlawful use of weapons,” and generally covers discharging, carrying, or brandishing a weapon (or setting a spring gun). I expect that Missouri courts would therefore narrowly interpret “possesses” in this statute, as covering only having on one’s person and not simply having a gun stored somewhere in the home.

You can read the Missouri Supreme Court decision here. Looks like Richard asserted it was overbroad, and the Court in this case refused to apply that doctrine, saying its use was limited to the First Amendment. It further refused to recognized the Second Amendment as incorporated, and proceeded with its analysis under the Missouri Constitution. The Missouri Supreme Court actually reversed and remanded based on standing to raise a constitutional issue given the facts in the case:

Although section 571.030.5 sets out a specific exception to the rule barring possession or discharge of a firearm while intoxicated, where the person is defending himself or others, Richard argues that the statute could be applied in a manner that effectively would prohibit an intoxicated person from possessing a firearm in the home for lawful self-defense. There is, at this point, no self-defense issue in this case. Richard has no standing to raise hypothetical instances in which the statute might be applied unconstitutionally. Lester v. Sayles, 850 S.W.2d 858, 872-873 (Mo. banc 1993). Richard’s claim must be analyzed under the facts of this case. Under the facts of this case at this stage of the litigation, his constitutional claims fail.

The circuit court erred in dismissing the state’s information charging Richard with violating section 571.030.1(5). The judgment is reversed, and the case is remanded.

So this ruling would appear to hinge exclusively on the facts in this particular case, rather than being a broad ruling that would affect all gun possession in the home while a person in the home was intoxicated. The Missouri Supreme Court doesn’t seem to want to consider that the statute is facially unconstitutional, but would seem to indicate some willingness to hear a constitutional challenge by someone who can raise a legitimate constitutional claim regarding self-defense in the home.

I’m still inclined to believe the statute is over broad. The exception for self-defense only applies if one is actively engaged in self-defense under 563.031, RSMo. The courts can certainly carve out an area of constitutionally protected possession here, but the Missouri Legislature should really have taken more care when drafting this law.

Depends on What One Means by Possession

Interesting case out of Missouri, via SayUncle. A man drunk at home is charged with having a firearms while intoxicated. It seems to me that the public has an interest in a person not carrying a firearm in public while intoxicated, but the state’s power to reach into the home ought to be considerably diminished. Should someone be charged because they are intoxicated at home, but have a loaded pistol in the bed stand upstairs, or have a rifle in the closet?

Looking at the Missouri Statue, it would indeed seem the law reaches this far.

571.030. 1. A person commits the crime of unlawful use of weapons if he or she knowingly:

(5) Possesses or discharges a firearm or projectile weapon while intoxicated; or

In fact, it would seem to even make possession of an air gun or a bow and arrow a crime. The law isn’t entirely clear about what possession means, and doesn’t stipulate loaded or unloaded. Here’s the major exception, other than self-defense:

Subdivisions (1), (5), (8), and (10) of subsection 1 of this section do not apply when the actor is transporting such weapons in a nonfunctioning state or in an unloaded state when ammunition is not readily accessible or when such weapons are not readily accessible.

So you can transport firearms unloaded, in your car, and be as tanked up as you want! Well, DUI laws still apply, but they can’t get your for transporting an unloaded gun in your trunk. But it would appear this is a blanket prohibition on having a gun in the home while intoxicated.

I think the lower court got it right. This statute is pretty clearly over broad and unconstitutional. How can there be an exception for self-defense if you can’t have the gun around in a state ready to use for self-defense? I don’t suddenly lose my Second Amendment rights because I have a couple of beers in the home. The discharge portion of this is probably constitutional, but mere possession? I don’t see how that is, since it effectively destroys the right to keep a gun in the home.

RWN Reports on the Rise of MAIG

I appreciate Doubleplusundead for helping spread the word about MAIG to a wider audience. A few of these new mayors are in my area, and I’m currently thinking about how to approach them in an attempt to get them out. We’ve tried one approach previously, but I wasn’t all that pleased with the result, so we’ll try something new. The important thing is grass roots pressure. That’s the only thing that’s going to get a lot of these mayors to quit.

My Magic Mouse Has Arrived

It came in the mail today, along with a review copy of Dave Kopel’s new book Aiming for Liberty, which I hope to read over the Thanksgiving Holiday. The Magic Mouse is the mouse I’ve been waiting for all my life. We’ve come a long way since the big one button wonder on the original Macintosh. The only mechanical part on the Magic Mouse is the click. Scrolling is done entirely by touch. Right click/left click works just as it does on the earlier Mighty Mouse. Apple’s Mighty Mouse was nice, but the scroll wheel had the odious habit of getting gummed up and not working. That combined with a lack of user serviceability made this a serious flaw. I find the Mighty Mouse’s function intuitive and smooth. My only real complaint is with the packaging, which uses a glue strip to hold the mouse in place, and which leaves a residue on the mouse that needs to be cleaned off before use. Annoying for sure, but that’s probably the only time I’ll ever have to clean the mighty mouse with anything other than a quick wipe down, and that alone makes it worth it.

Latest Cutting Edge Google Research from VPC

Josh Sugarmann shows that people with concealed carry permits have murdered 85 people from 2007 to 2009. Source? News accounts, no doubt found through intensive research using Google. But if you look carefully at the actual reports, for the report which shows law enforcement officers killed, only one has actually been convicted, though the circumstances in the other cases, I will agree make a guilty verdict likely. It’s less clear when you look at private citizen incidents, since only 10 of the 42 incidents involved people who were convicted, with a further 10 committing suicide in likely murder suicides. Of the incidents not yet resulting in a conviction, one doesn’t even involve the use of a gun, eight could arguably be self-defense, depending on circumstances (something for a jury to decide).

I’d also point out that by dividing the incidents up like this, it makes it look like we’re dealing with more incidents overall, rather than just 46. So out of the estimated 5 million concealed carry permit holders in the country, Josh Sugarmann managed to dig up 46 people, many of which only might be murderers because of a lack of convictions. Even giving Josh the benefit of doubt, that means that concealed carry permit holders murder at a rate 1/4 1/8 that of the general population. Not surprising for a group of people that have gone through a background check.

UPDATE: I should note that of the 46 incidents listed, there are a number of them which the concealed carry permit was not really material to the crime, because they either happened in or near the home.

UPDATE: Joe informs me I forgot to correct for the fact that Sugarmann’s study is over two years, so the real number is 1/8 not 1/4, and is noted above.

Sharp Rise in Morris County Gun Permits

Cemetery reports, with some charts, on a fairly significant rise in people being issued Firearms Owners ID cards, and permits to purchase handguns in Morris County, New Jersey. One thing to consider is that FID cards are good for life, so these issuances represent new gun owners, which increased 57% from 2006 to 2008, and are on track to increase a further 78% from 2008 to 2009 if the trend holds.

I think a lot more of the Great Obama Gun Rush may have been first time buyers than we realized. I hate New Jersey’s permitting and licensing system, but it is useful to be able to track trends, and the trends seems to be a lot of new gun owners, even in the Garden State, albeit in traditionally a Republican county. Given how hard Bryan Miller had to work to pass gun rationing, these numbers can’t make him feel good about future prospects.

First Victims of Irish Gun Ban

Via Jeff Soyer, we have one of the early victims. A competitive pistol shooter who police refuse to renew a gun license for. I’m trying to think of a jurisdiction that enacted licensing, that didn’t then tighten the wrench on the requirement until they got to the point where bans or de facto bans were feasible. We saw it happen in New York City, we saw it happen in the United Kingdom, in New Zealand, in Finland, Canada, Massachusetts, and several others.

But you know, we’re just unreasonable and paranoid for not agreeing to the eminently reasonable step of licensing gun owners.

Electronic Doodad Tracks Shots & Location

Normally I am against electronic doodads on guns if the doodad is necessary for the firearm’s operation, since electronics can fail, and batteries can die. But since this device only enhances the functioning of the firearm, it seems like a good idea to me, and fits in the previously wasted space of the pistol grip.