The Real Gun Guys

Photo snapped of several of myself and some other PAFOA guys in Harrisburg today, just outside the capitol rear entrance.  I didn’t pose open carrying for the pic because I didn’t check my side arm with the Capitol Police, so I didn’t have it on me upon leaving.

A better looking bunch of gun nuts you’ll not see too many other places ;)  From left to right, using forum names, as best as I can remember:

Doug, Myself, Pro2a, JDePietro, PA Patriot, and Gnbrotz

A fun bunch of gun guys to go activisting with, I do say.

UPDATE: A friend of mine chastizes my fashion sense, assuming that I have any to begin with.   To my credit, I realized my outfit was suboptimal, but at my workplace, every day is casual friday.  I dress up pretty much never, and I was dismayed to find out that my shirts no longer fit because I’m getting too fat, so I didn’t have much to work with.

Back from Harrisburg

The rally went swell.  I will have coverage as I manage to get caught up, and organized.  Things look very good for gun rights in Pennsylvania, and we met with many representatives.  I would like to personally thank Rep. Daryl Metcalfe, Pennsylvania Federation of Sportsmen’s Clubs, Pennsylvania Firearms Owners Assocation, Firearms Owners Against Crime, and Allegheny County Sportsmen’s League for putting this event together and getting people excited about lobbying to protect the second amendment.

HB 1845 Passes House

The bill HB1845, which contains a provision to eliminate the administrative ban on carrying firearms in state parks, as well as passes “Katrina” legislation, preventing authorities from confiscating firearms in a State of Emergency, has passed the house.  In fact, it passed the house while myself, and several other Pennsylvania Firearms Owners Association members watched from The House Gallery at the Capitol in Harrisburg.

Predictably, Philadelphia media is spinning this as a victory for gun control because of the provisions it has stiffening penalties for possessing a firearm with an altered or obliterated serial number.  No doubt the anti-gun forces in that city are following the Brady Campaign model, where if you can’t win, you can claim to win, and it’s just as good.

The vote was unnanimous, 200 to nil.  The only representative who got up to say anything negative about it was Kathy Manderino, who wanted to point out the problems she saw with the provision to issue emergency concealed carry licenses, and to remind everyone that the Coalition Against Domestic Violence is opposed to this bill.  Why they are, I can’t imagine, since how is it not empowering to women to be able to successfully defend themselves against a man who means to rape, gravely injure, or murder them.  One has to ponder what these groups think of the women they claim to represent, that they don’t believe them capable of making wise decisions in regards to their own personal security.   Nontheless, I guess Rep. Manderino’s objections weren’t that strong, because she didn’t vote against final passage.

From Across the Rubicon

SayUncle points out that Wyoming is telling the feds to go to hell in regards to a lot of their less-than-civil-rights-respecting laws.  Montana did a similar action with federal gun laws.  These are largely symbolic gestures, because despite all this, Montana and Wyoming are still committed to being a functioning part of the United States.

But what if they weren’t?  What if the federal government crossed the Rubicon of gun control?  We often like to think that the federal government will meet mass resistance should the “knock on the door” ever come, but they probably won’t.  Lone individual action will not be how an onerous federal gun measure will be successfully resisted.  No doubt some individuals will try, with the end result being those individuals end up dead, possibly along with their families.  I don’t think the answer to the “Crossed Rubicon” problem lies in relying on that possibility.  The knock won’t likely come from men in jack boots, disarming people to ship them off in cattle cars and toss them into ovens.  It’ll come from a happy, smiling government that wants to take care of everybody, and surely you don’t need guns in such a happy utopia.

Most non-sociopathic human beings have powerful mental programming that prevents them from going against the tribe.  It’s easy to say “I’ll shoot any son of a bitch that comes for my guns.” from the comfort of a lounge or living room.  It’s quite another thing to actually do it; to put a fellow countryman in the cross hairs, one that’s likely to represent a government that looks more like Sweden than 1930s Germany, and actually pull the trigger.  It is not something the vast majority of law abiding people are capable of doing.  I have no doubt some will, but the numbers will be very small, too small to make any difference in the end.  Such action will likely strengthen the resolve of those who want to bring us paradise.

Whether we realize it or not, Wyoming and Montana are showing us how it could be done, effectively done.  They key to resisting an unconstitutional federal government is state action, but something more than mere symbolic action.  What if, for instance, Montana declared that federal gun control was invalid and unconstitutional, and threatened to arrest any federal agent who entered Montana to enforce it?  How far would the federal government be willing to press Montana?  What are other Americans willing to sacrifice in order to impose gun control on states that don’t want it?  In this hypothetical scenario, Montana would have to be deadly serious about enforcing their edicts.  Attempts by the federal government to impose control over the situation would need to be met with quite real threats of secession, along with the attendant violence that could go along with such an audacious move. Montana would essentially be asking the nation a very serious question “Are you so intent on gun control that you’re willing to risk the cohesion and integrity of the United States, and to risk violence against the citizens of several of our states to enforce it?”  Unless Americans change greatly, the answer to that is probably going to be no, and it would offer a peaceful way for the federal government to retreat back across the Rubicon.

This scenario offers three very important things — It offers people, who want to resist, the legitimacy of a functioning, lawful government to rally around, as an alternative to dying in a desperate, lone action.  It offers a means of collective confrontation with the federal government that wouldn’t have to turn violent except as a final resort, and finally it offers an opportunity for the proponents of gun control to back down from the brink.

The question second amendment advocates need to be thinking about isn’t “Where’s the line in the sand where I start shooting.” but “Where’s my line in the sand where I start lobbying my state government to stand up to this crap?”  We have to keep the spirit of defiance alive in our state cultures.  Secession has a lot of negative connotations to many people, since the last time we did it, it was in defense of slavery, but its possibility a critical aspect in the balance of power between the federal and state governments.  It is the ultimate trump card, one that must be played with utmost care, but it must be kept in play.  That’s tough in an age where all the states suckle at the federal teat, but if we’re to remain under a federal government limited by the a constitution, more states have to start acting like Montana and Wyoming, and be willing to tell the federal government to go to hell, with all the terrible consequences that statement could have if they were to one day be serious about it.

Philly Delaying Vote on Gun Bills

Reader ErnieD e-mails this article talking about the vote:

A package of gun control bills submitted by City Councilman Darrell Clarke will apparently not come up for a vote tomorrow during Council’s weekly session.  Clarke last week said that the city Law Department was reviewing the proposed legislation, which was approved by Council’s Committee on Public Safety.  The legislation, which could have come up for a final vote by Council tomorrow, is being amended today and then held.

The legislation would limit handgun purchases to one a month, require owners to report lost or stolen guns to police, allow police to confiscate guns from people considered a risk to themselves or others, require a license from police to bring a gun into the city, ban semiautomatic weapons with clips that hold more than 10 rounds and establish a registry for ammunition sales.

It should take them about 3 minutes to review this legislation.  It’s illegal under state law and the state constitution.  It’s not that complicated.  I’m wondering if the city is worried about the lawsuits that are sure to come about if they cross this Rubicon.

Obama on Concealed Carry

No one ever accused Obama of being a smart politican.  A talented orator yes, but he makes amaturish mistakes.  This is one of them:

“I am not in favor of concealed weapons,” Obama said. “I think that creates a potential atmosphere where more innocent people could (get shot during) altercations.”

It should be noted this is a state that issues more than 600,000 concealed carry permits, with Allegheny County, which contains Pittsburgh, issuing more licenses than any other issuing authority anywhere in the country.  This area is also pretty heavily Democratic, but this is the part of the state that elects pro-gun Democrats.  Hillary didn’t fare much better:

“I … think we should reinstate the assault weapons ban (that expired in 2004) in order to give our police officers a fighting chance against the criminals on the street with these military-style assault weapons,” Clinton said Tuesday.

The assault weapons issue hasn’t come up in our state since the early 90s, and we defeated it. Even the anti-gun people here in Pennsylvania consider it politically unachievable. The candidates saving grace will be that they both suck pretty equally on gun rights, which I can only hope will make many of the pro-gun Democrats that reside in Pennsylvania cross the aisle and vote for John McCain.

UPDATE: Gun Law News has more.

Media Reaction

In Today’s Philadelphia Inquirer:

The House yesterday rejected a measure aimed at curbing illegal handgun trafficking, the first substantive gun restriction considered by the full chamber in more than a decade.

By a vote of 128-75 the House defeated an amendment – attached to a separate gun crime bill – that would have made it mandatory to report lost and stolen handguns.

The amendment won overwhelming support from Philadelphia-area lawmakers, where polls show majority support for the reporting requirement. House Speaker Dennis O’Brien, a Republican, was the only representative from Philadelphia to vote against the measure.

O’Brien said he could not support what he called a “flawed bill” and felt it could have “unintended consequences” for legitimate crime victims, such as felony charges for not reporting multiple missing weapons. “It’s a difficult vote to explain why you’re not for it, but the deficiencies were glaring.”

Hat tip to Speaker O’Brien for knowing a turd when he sees it.  I wish more Philadelphia area reps were able to see through the bullshit.  It’s going to be the poor who own guns to protect their homes in Philadelphia who are going to be most at risk for being prosecuted under this bill.  I’m glad to see Speaker O’Brien realized that.

Gun-control proponents hailed the vote itself as a historic achievement for opening floor debate on gun violence and forcing lawmakers to take a formal position on controversial legislation.

You know you’re in good shape when gun control people are happy just to have a vote, even if that vote meant they lost resoundingly.  I agree it’s good to have these reps on record, because now we know who is and who isn’t on our side.

Rep. David Levdansky (D., Allegheny), the amendment’s sponsor and an avid hunter, argued that most sportsmen do not have an issue with reasonable handgun restrictions.

Notice how our opponents these days are always avid hunters?  The media seem eager to make sure you know that.  I mean, how else are you going to make the people who are against this look no better than kooks?

“We find it disappointing that even the most commonsense crime-control legislation can’t muster a majority in the House at this point,” Rendell spokesman Chuck Ardo said. “But we will continue working with our allies to build support for another day.”

Keep spinning Ed, because we’ll be doing the same thing, and there are more of us than there are of you.

UPDATE: Armed and Safe has more.

Details on HB 1845

Amendments passed to HB 1845:

A06414 (GODSHALL) 202-0 Allows chiefs of police and police commissioners to be exempt from UFA requirements for purchasing firearms for official purposes
A06170 (HARPER) 159-44 Make it a crime to falsely report the loss or theft of a firearm.
A06346 (FAIRCHILD) 203-0 Extends Licenses to Carry expiration for deployed military personnel until 90 days until after return from duty.
A06467 (FAIRCHILD) 180-22 Prevents law enforcement from seizing firearms, ammunition or accessories during a state of emergency, unless such a seizure would be lawful absent the state of emergency
A06378 (ADOLPH) 202-0 Extends the statute of limitations to five years on unlawful firearms transfers.
A06465 (D. O’BRIEN) 202-0 Amends the original statute of limitations to no more than eight years, but allows for prosecution for up to one year after discovery of crime by authorities within that eight year window.
A06348 (METCALFE) 147-55 Provides for immediate issuance of temporary emergency licenses to carry that last for up to 90 days. Bill would allow someone to walk into the sheriff’s office, file proof of danger, swear an affidavit, undergo a background check, and walk out with the temporary license.
A06415 (O’NEILL) 202-0 Enhances penalties for making false statements in connection to purchasing a firearm.
A06178 (LEVDANSKY) 75-128 (failed) Requires a Lost or Stolen Firearm to be reported or face criminal penalties.
A06542 (GODSHALL) 202-0 Creates a registry of lost and stolen firearms. Entries to be deleted after 20 years, or upon return to lawful owner.
A06547 (STABACK) 197-5 Allows for carry in state parks by License to Carry Firearms holders, and also for law enforcement officers.

This, overall, is a good deal for gun owners. The Philly politicians are getting several new tools they can use to go after criminal trafficking of firearms. We will, of course, want to see Philadelphia actually using these laws on criminals. It does no good to not enforce them, and then come back bitching to gun owners they need more controls. This bill gives them some good things, and they need to use them.

We contacted our reps to tell them to oppose the Lost and Carry bill, and it made quite a difference. Now it’s time to contact them and encourage them to support final passage of HB 1845.

Breaking News!

A vote happened on House Bill 1845 tonight.  The Lost and Stolen amendment went down in flames 75-128.  In it’s place, an amendment was filed that makes it a crime to falsely report a firearm as stolen, and this amendment passed.  The “emergency powers” amendment was also passed, along with a provision to get rid of the ban on carry in state parks.  A final vote on the bill will happen tomorrow.  Needless to say, we want to support passage of this bill as amendment.

Great work by the NRA, and all the other groups who were involved, and all the individual citizens who called their state representatives, in defeating the Lost and Stolen bill, and making sure gun owners got something out of it.  I certainly won’t complain about the state park provision!

UPDATE: Looks like we didn’t get castle doctrine, but I’m hearing that will get another committee hearing.