Rustmeister had some fun last week with an Australian blogger who had some issues with America’s gun culture. Gun bloggers descended on his comment section, and, as would be expected, Reasoned Discourse ensued. It looks like Rustmeister is talking again about this latest post by our intrepid Aussie, where he ponders why we hate our country.
I’ve talked to more than a few people from other countries who really have a very difficult time wrapping their heads around the idea of America’s gun culture, and why we think it’s so important to preserve it. I think ones position on the issue depends on who you believe should be responsible for security, the individual or the community. Americans, in general, aren’t entirely thrilled with the idea of being completely reliant on government for their personal security, and are willing to tolerate a higher level of social disorder in order to preserve their right to defend themselves and their families if the community at large fails to protect them.
Other societies place a higher value on community protection than they do on indivudal protection, and are willing to tolerate failures in community protection in order to maintain the primacy of the community in the role of protecting individuals. Even if they will concede that individuals have a right to self-defense, they won’t agree that it extends to being able to arm themselves in order to exercise that right.
Needless to say I’m not willing to risk my own personal security for the sake of someone else’s sense of community, but it’s the reason it’s difficult to have discussions on gun control with people who come from other more community oriented cultures; they don’t start with the same fundamental assumptions that most Americans do. Certainly there are many Americans that share a more community orientation, and who also favor disarming individuals in order to make them reliant on the community for protection, but American culture has always been more distrustful of the idea of surrending more individual automony and responsibility to the community at large, and our gun culture is probably the most prominent example of that. It’s why those of us who fight for the individual right to be armed are as passionate as we are; it’s not just about guns, or maybe not even mostly about guns, it’s about preventing the individual from being sacrified on the altar of community.
Of course, it’s also hard to have a conversation with wankers who resort to insults and personal attacks rather than actually trying to talk and understand each other.