Recording the Police

I have little sympathy for the animal rights whack jobs protesting the Philadelphia Gun Club, but I will defend them on this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmNU7Zmbe0s[/youtube]

They have every right to film the police, even if they have no right to trespass. Hat tip to Radley Balko on this one. Now that these people are bringing these issues to Bensalem, they need to train their police officers on the law. I can’t stand what these people are doing, but I admire this woman’s tenacity.

The Skoien Opinion

Josh Blackman looks at the 7th Circuit’s ruling in the Lautenberg Amendment (strips Second Amendment rights from domestic violence misdemeanants) case in a thorough manner, and notes:

Don’t expect SCOTUS to resolve this question. There is no way the Court grants cert on an issue as muddy as giving guns to people who commit domestic crimes. Additionally, there is no Circuit split here.

This challenge could arise in other misdemeanor contexts–mainly white collar crimes. Should someone who is found guilty of tax evasion or medicare fraud be disarmed forever? That, will likely be the next challenge.

I agree. I don’t see the Court wanting to go there right now. If the Heller majority wasn’t strong enough to say something about standards of review, but to merely hint, I’m worried about whether it would hold together under this kind of stress, despite the fact that there are more stories out there like this guy’s than there are cases of legitimate wife beaters.

I guess the question would hinge on whether the Court avoided setting a standard of review because the majority isn’t agreed on the strength of the standard, or because someone doesn’t like the idea of setting a standard this soon. To me the Court pretty strongly hinted that the standard of review ought to be quite strict. That doesn’t mean lower courts aren’t going to ignore it.

We may not find very favorable outcomes in the 7th Circuit. Recall the even two Republican appointees, Posner and Easterbrook, are both vociferously opposed preserving the Second Amendment and wish to destroy it as in individual right., and only one judge, nominated by G.W. Bush, was willing to dissent.

Wrong Argument

The New Republic’s Jonathan Chait has found another loophole, he calls The NRA Health Care Loophole, and notes:

A huge portion of the conservative backlash against health care reform was premised on the notion that reform would force people who choose to lead healthy, responsible lives to subsidize bad decisions by fat, lazy slobs.

Chait then goes on to point out the exemption in the Health Care bill that prohibits insurers from charging extra for gun ownership, and demands we be outraged. I hate to light fire to your straw man there Jon, but I don’t think that’s the argument we’ve made. I believe the argument we’ve made is that it gives government a very appealing reason to control the behavior of citizenry, either by hook or by crook, because of the costs imposed on public health. In other words, it opens up the door to Food Control, Gun Control, bans on risky lifestyle decisions — or at best a sort of quiet tyranny by manipulation of the system to coerce people to make better (by their definition) choices. In other words, we’re afraid of exactly what Jonathan Chait wants us to be outraged by.

Questions for Red State

So if NRA was so against the Coburn language that they tried to apparently sabotage it, who managed to convince Harry Reid to allow the vote on the Floor Amendment? I mean, if he did it out of the kindness of his heart, do you expect me to believe he’s anti gun as Red State suggests? Does GOA, who unfairly maligns Reid on guns because they are partisan, have sway in Reid’s office? Do the Democrats fear the withdrawal of the couple hundred bucks GOA donated to Dem candidates in 2008? GOA’s lobbying might? How’d the floor amendment happen? If Reid would have killed the DC Voting Rights Amendment, why did he allow the floor vote later? If he was against it, who was it who twisted his arm? If Reid was against it, why did he vote for the amendment?

What I’m saying is, what Red State is implying doesn’t make any sense. It doesn’t make any sense because I don’t think Red State knows much at all about this issue. I once again am confirmed in my belief that Red State has no credibility on Second Amendment issues, and is pissed off at NRA because they are supporting pro-gun Democrats.

This pisses me off, because if you weaken NRA, you weaken the Right to Bear Arms. There is no group that’s going to step up, or is capable of stepping up, and taking their place. That’s why I decided I had had enough of being nice, getting along, because we’re all on the same side after all, you know. GOA may give a good appearance of being with us, but they not on our side, and so I have set out to expose them for what they are; hacks who can only boost themselves at the expense of others, because they have no real accomplishments to speak of. That’s who Red State is aligning themselves with.

UPDATE: Kos seems to get it, it’s a shame that the Conservative movement doesn’t seem to. (h/t Uncle for that one)

The List

J.P. Sauer Bar PistolI think we can all agree that it’s important to keep guns, like the one pictured to the left, out of the hands of Chicago’s gangs. It is clear which kinds of firearms criminals in Chicago prefer. Chicago has its list of banned “unsafe” handguns out. No Lawyers, Only Guns and Money notes that it gets most of the manufacturers of what anti-gun folks would call “Saturday Night Specials,” including derringers. Chuck Michel is calling it the Goldilocks approach to gun control. I note that it bans some of the more major manufacturers too. Daisy is listed, and they make air guns. All North American Arms spur trigger models are banned. Hi-Points are banned entirely, along with all the Ring of Fire companies. The SIG Mosquito is banned by name. But most of these guns are collector’s pieces, so what crime control purpose could they serve?

We all know the answer to that. They are trying desperately to carve out any space they can find where the Courts will allow them to apply bans, and clearly they’ve decided to hang their hats on the evils of the spur and sheathed trigger. It’s not that Chicago really believes in this as a crime measure, so much as they want to get the courts to say nice things about being able to ban guns for certain reasons, like being unsafe. If this list is upheld, expect Chicago to make frequent additions to make sure your average poor Chicagoans can in no way afford to buy protection for themselves. Having been forced by the Supreme Court to give up bans, having it be a privilege for the Chicago elite is the next best thing.

In this sense, Chicago is being far smarter than DC, because it’s hard to argue that the Government’s general ability to regulate products for safety can’t apply to handguns. But the presence on this list of manufacturers who make cheap, but not unsafe handguns could cause the list to fall, and the Courts may frown on the discretion allowed bureaucrats to deem a handgun “unsafe.” While I would be nervous how the courts will treat this list, it could also pay off for us as readily as Chicago. Chicago is being smarter than DC, but that’s not saying much, and is not to say they are being all that smart.

Latest Attack on NRA from Red State

It seems Erick Erickson NRA hatin’ knows no limits. Fortunately for me, because I’m sick of dealing with his nonsense, Kevin at Exurban League has taken care of it already. In any legislative issue there’s going to be concerns about language, and what you can get enough votes to support. If you want to know the consequences of reaching too far, take a look at National Reciprocity. As it is, NRA supported the Coburn Amendment. That’s the end of the story. Who else got the language attached? GOA? If so, then why do all my lobbyist friends tell me they never see GOA on the Hill?

A Challenge for the Brady Folks

I guess a big question I would have for the Brady folks, is are they really willing to accept the implications of the Second Amendment being a fundamental individual right? For instance, is Chicago’s ban on gun shops constitutional? If so, why? It seems absurd you would have a right to possess something, but not buy it. There would also be an implied right to manufacture and trade in firearms, as incidental and necessary for keeping and bearing. Would it be correct to allow books to be owned and read in the city, but not sold?

Is their ban on firing ranges constitutional? Wouldn’t the right to keep and bear arms necessarily have to extend to the right to practice and drill with arms? Could Chicago ban adult literacy education centers within the city’s borders? Or ban teaching of English Literature Appreciation? Ban spelling bees? Outlaw teaching of foreign languages?

Is the 100 dollar fee they are charging for licenses just fine too? What if they charged a 100 dollar fee to be paid before having an abortion? What if they charged 100 dollars for a marriage license? Or charged 100 dollars for a demonstration permit? The Courts have generally frowned on license fees in exercise of fundamental rights that are punitive in nature, rather than to cover filing and processing costs.

“Oh, but the Second Amendment is different.” Well, in some important ways, yes. We generally accept that the Second Amendment right can’t be an identical mirror of the First, or exactly like other rights. But it would almost seem the gun control groups want to deny that an examination of how we treat other rights is facially illegitimate. This strikes me as absurd, but I suspect they push that idea because they don’t like the implications of “fundamental right.”