Threat from the ABA

Howard Nemerov is noting that the American Bar Association is now promoting micro stamping, and unlike the Bradys, they bring a lot of money to the table to help push for it.

9 Responses to “Threat from the ABA”

  1. SayUncle says:

    Bad law = lots of lawsuits

  2. Mike says:

    “To succeed, microstamping requires building a permanent database of all gun owners (licensing) and linking their firearms by serial number (registration), two major goals of gun control advocates.”

    A (federal) gun registration would violate FOPA.

  3. Sebastian says:

    FOPA can be amended through an Act of Congress.

  4. Dannytheman says:

    Anyone who doesn’t truly believe that database exists already, doesn’t know much!!

  5. Alpheus says:

    “[T]hat would enable law enforcement to identify the serial number of the pistol and hence the first known purchaser of a weapon used in a crime.”

    Aren’t most crime guns stolen anyway? Besides which, microstamping is VERY EASY to defeat: all you have to do is file off the microstamp, or replace the firing pin.

    Of course, all these arguments have been made before; it’s just yet another hurdle for gun owners to jump over!

  6. Matt says:

    I don’t see this as a win for lawyers on the tort side but rather a win for defense attorneys. Think about it: If you mandated microstamping, you would be offering numerous means of establishing reasonable doubt for criminals as to whether it was the gun they had was used in a crime. Such a thing would be a defense lawyer’s dream.

  7. Alpheus says:

    In an article recently linked to by Sebastian, I think, (my memory is a little fuzzy on who linked to it…in any case, someone did!) someone did a study to determine how the type of weapon may affect the outcome of a given trial. It would seem that if you used an AR-15 for self-defense, for example, you would more likely be convicted, and get a longer sentence, than if you used a more “hunter-ish” rifle that used the exact same round, and had a magazine that contained just as many rounds.

    An interesting point made in the article itself, though, was that a lot of times, the actual weapon isn’t allowed to be admitted as evidence–only the fact that the defendant shot someone, how many times, where, etc.

    If this is the case, I’m not sure if it would be all that big of a win for defense lawyers at all!

  8. Weer'd Beard says:

    “[T]hat would enable law enforcement to identify the serial number of the pistol and hence the first known purchaser of a weapon used in a crime.”

    And what exactly does the serial number get them? Even in my state where we have a full gun registry crimes still get solved by collecting evidence and witnesses.

  9. dustydog says:

    I’ve wondered about microstamping and ballistic fingerprinting, maybe someone can explain to me:
    Why wouldn’t any planning to commit crimes of violence just buy new barrels to foil the ballistic fingerprinting? Similarly, why wouldn’t they buy new hammers to foil the casing stamping?
    I expect this is a backdoor way to make reloading illegal, and importing ammunition illegal (because the law will be written to ensure that Russian stuff won’t be microstamp compliant).