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Since We Know the Media Are Liars …

I have to assume they are lying about this and taking things out of context in order to proffer their preferred narrative. You have to be pretty sick vultures to call up the descendants of a guy who’s been dead for nearly 20 years to get a statement about something they had nothing to do with. If it were me, I would have told them to fuck off and die in a fire. The family is quoted:

“Our father, Eugene Stoner, designed the AR-15 and subsequent M-16 as a military weapon to give our soldiers an advantage over the AK-47,” the Stoner family told NBC News late Wednesday. “He died long before any mass shootings occurred. But, we do think he would have been horrified and sickened as anyone, if not more by these events.”

Our friends at the New York Daily News, who can fuck off and die in a fire, ran this headline: “Inventor of the AR-15 would be ‘sickened’ by mass shootings.” Isn’t everyone horrified and sickened by mass murderers? I think that’s a natural reaction. Without hearing more from the family, I’m not willing to say anything against the family. Pretty clearly the media is perfectly willing to insert things between the lines that twist a statement into whatever advances the preferred narrative.

That Eugene Stoner designed the AR-15 and subsequent M16 for the military is a fact. But no military in the world has ever fielded an AR-15. In fact, the semi-auto AR-15 platform was quickly sold into the civilian market by Colt, and I don’t recall ever reading of Stoner ever having objected to it.

15 Responses to “Since We Know the Media Are Liars …”

  1. CarlosT says:

    In fact, it would have been shocking if the headline were “Inventor of AR-15 would be pleased with death toll of mass shootings.” I think all weapons designers know their products can be used for good or ill and hope that in the balance, the good will win out.

  2. Old 1811 says:

    The same press that calls the AR-15 a “weapon of war” describes it as a “civilian version” of the M-16. Leaving aside the question of which came first, the “civilian version” of anything is by definition not meant for military use, therefore the AR-15 is by definition not a “weapon of war.”
    But since weapons designed solely for military use shouldn’t be on our streets, today I turned my Brown Bess in to the police.
    You can’t be too safe.

  3. Whetherman says:

    The Armalite AR-180 was for quite awhile the “weapon of choice” for the Irish Republican Army. It was supplied to them largely by Irish-Americans, including with the connivance of the Boston Police Department. The infamous Whitey Bulger was part of that action, serving as both an arms dealing intermediary and informer to the FBI. He both loaded up and ratted out the ship Marita Ann that was interdicted with something like six tons of arms headed from the the United States to Ireland.

    I’ve made that a long story, but the bottom line to it is, I don’t recall Stoner doing any hand-wringing over where his guns were going, at the time.

    • Jeff O says:

      Supplied by men like my grandfather, who stored firearms under his porch until they could be sent to Ireland. Thankfully the police in more places than just Boston were sympathetic to the cause over half a century ago!

      “Our father, Eugene Stoner, designed the AR-15 and subsequent M-16 as a military weapon to give our soldiers an advantage over the AK-47,”

      Thank you Mr. Stoner for giving millions of average American citizens the upper hand when dealing with felons intent on ending our lives.

  4. Andrew says:

    If the family is so sad, then they can donate all their monies earned from the sales of these products to the victims.

    chirp

    chirp

    chirp

    No? Then fuck off.

    • Sigivald says:

      I doubt the Stoner estate is getting much in royalties these days, since Armalite’s not the same company anymore and the patents are all long expired (and Armalite sold the AR-15 to Colt anyway)…

      They don’t get a cent from AR-15 sales.

  5. LordStirling says:

    Wow, you can do a lot of mischief when you can select quotes from multiple unidentified “sources” and add the appropriate framing to make it appear like a unified statement for/against something. Sadly, most people don’t get at least the meager amount of propaganda recognition education I did when I was in school.

    Carefully read the MSNBC article. You’ll notice that there are no combination of quotes/factoids/spiel from the article you can put together that would give you a reasonable impression that Eugene Stoner believed the AR-15 shouldn’t be sold to civilians. This duck quacks like it’s connect-the-dots, agenda-driven “journalism.”

    Heaven knows, Mr. Stoner lived long enough after the civilian AR-15 came to market… he had plenty of time to chime in if he was that passionate it was a bad idea to sell.

  6. Brad says:

    Eugene Stoner lived well into the gun-control era which demonized so-called “assault weapons” and saw laws passed against them. If Stoner really did have anything negative to say he would have said it sometime between 1989 and when he died in 1997. The fact the anti-gun Ruling Class News Media try to use Stoner’s family as some kind of sick ouija board to divine his thoughts from beyond the grave is the proof that such an anti-gun quote can’t be found.

    • Sebastian says:

      try to use Stoner’s family as some kind of sick ouija board to divine his thoughts from beyond the grave is the proof that such an anti-gun quote can’t be found.

      I wish I had written that!

    • Sigivald says:

      Heck, if he thought civilian sales of rifles like that were bad, he could have:

      1) Mentioned it at any time after 1960, when Colt started selling the SP1 to civilians.

      2) Not then developed the AR-180 for civilian use.

      That he did neither of those things make it seem real likely he was okay with civilians having his arms.

      I mean, the AR-180 was expressly for the civilian market …

  7. Tarkin says:

    Colt started marketing to the general public in 1963!

    http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/Nzc0WDU3OQ==/z/JIwAAOSwNphWZ9et/$_3.JPG

    Stoner had decades to object to the AR-15 being sold to civilians and he never said a peep!

  8. Joe_in_Pitt says:

    The antis and their media enablers are literally throwing everything at the wall right now to see what sticks.

    We’re well into the age where the same “solutions” are going to be rammed down our throats regardless of the actual circumstances of the event. Only now the media is stooping to shit like this, either to drive the agenda or merely as clickbait for the low-information social media masses.

  9. Bill Twist says:

    Stoner died in 1997.

    An AR-15 was used in a mass shooting at least as far back as 1980:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daingerfield_church_shooting

    Article is bull.

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