Hollande is calling this an act of war. I wish we had more to offer than hashtag activism, but that’s probably all you’re getting out of Barry’s regime. But despite our inherited tendency to mock the French, they are arguably the second most potent military power in Europe after the Russians. In retrospect, it may not be the very best of ideas to mess with people whose national anthem roughly translates as this:
Though, they don’t sing those lyrics anymore, just like the Germans don’t sing the “Deutschland Uber Alles” part of “Deutschland Uber Alles” anymore. But I’m going to bet you’ll be seeing a lot more of the forbidden lyrics being sung if this kind of shit keeps up. Arguably the biggest casualty of this evenings events will be the European Union.
The big question in my mind is whether the French are going to cozy up to Vladimir Putin because we’re mostly useless as allies these days.
Oh they sing those lyrics all the time. It’s the refrain to the song. Look at any French national team soccer match. Even when Sarkozy was elected in 2007, the sang those lyrics.
Hard to make out the words since they’re French and I’m not, but this crowd seems to be singing the same:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4611886625001/french-crowd-sings-national-anthem-after-paris-attacks/?#sp=show-clips
“Why do the French plant trees along the road-side? So the Germans can march in the shade.”
Apparently there were marches in Germany, as news got out, and it wasn’t in solidarity with they Syrians, and when Germans get their marching boots on things, happen in Europe.
The Islamic State is not a “terrorist group” – they are a state actor. They have territory, laws, an economy, perform international trade, and possess a military capable of seizing and defending wide swaths of territory from professional militaries.
So France was attacked by a foreign power who claims responsibility.
Where’s NATO?
Bingo.
ISIS is no Al-Qaeda. They are pretty clear about their intent to establish a fully functional, global caliphate. They already have plenty of territory and their leaders have no problem saying (far-fetched or not) that eventually, European lands will be in their path.
And I’m sick of the progressives here screaming about how if we “Just pull out of the Middle East” ISIS will stop attacking the west. These primates are raping, enslaving, and killing plenty of their fellow Muslims in Iraq and Syria. They don’t care where you live or what you believe, if it’s not their ridiculous set of beliefs you deserve to die.
How about we pull out, and if they try anything, we kill them all?
That progressive enough for you?
Try anything where exactly? Here in the US? Turkey? The UK?
We can’t pretend this is some decentralized group of terrorists, we need to realize that they are how Patrick explained above: For all intents and purposes they are a de-facto nation. They don’t just attack to tell the west to “get out”, they want to expand their caliphate. These attacks are a means to an end.
The time to kill them all was back in 2007-2008 when it was still known as “Al-Qaeda in Iraq” to us, nothing more than a loose collection of insurgent groups operating out of Al Anbar. The surge weakened them and they were facing backlash even from their fellow Sunnis. Now they’ve been doing nothing but growing since 2009, and arming them in Syria was one of the biggest mistakes we’ve made.
I will agree not getting involved in the first place would have been preferable, but what’s even worse is getting involved and either doing a half-ass job of knowing who we’re supporting/opposing or just leaving with absolutely no regard for what the current situation is.
France is not part of NATO. They like to go it alone. They have to be the leader, or they don’t play. Look up the definition of “snob”, and you find a picture of a Frenchman.
France is part of Nato.. a quick google search proves that.
I guess the real question now is, what response occurs?
ISIS or ISIL or whatever has been given waaay too much room to operate.
Unfortunately our President is weak.. ISIS knows this and so does the International Community at large. I can see France looking to Russia for some sort of Coalition and running with it.
It’s time for boots on the ground…
They were not for a long time, but France rejoined in 2009.
But – they are able to safely hide and plan in Paris Muslim neighborhoods that are no-go areas for French police. Bombing Syria is purely for show.
Like bombing Vienna while the German Army is camped outside Paris.
Kinda makes you wonder what’s the point of Nato anymore with the Visegrád Group assembled.
That’s four North-Eastern European countries: Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia – building fences and uniting to guard their borders against the immigrant tidal wave.
France is on the Verge of … What?
“According to the Le Figaro, when asked by IFOP, a respected French polling agency, if they would accept a non-democratic form of government to bring necessary reforms to France, 67% of the French said they would opt for a government of non-elected technocrats. 40% percent said they would back a non-elected authoritarian regime.”
I think it’s time that a lot of Countries start looking at the original words to their anthems…
The US could start singing the 4th Stanza of the Star Spangled Banner:
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war’s desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav’n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: “In God is our trust.â€
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
Canada can sing the Maple Leaf Forever:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Maple_Leaf_Forever#Lyrics
The full version of Deutschland Uber Alles….
Its time for the adults to take charge and exterminate the vermin