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Dog Bites Man: More Gun Control is in the Works in New Jersey

A bill is in the works in New Jersey that would allow police to end your Second Amendment rights on the spot if it’s a domestic call. You can bet this will become standard practice on domestic calls if this passes, even if there’s no real evidence of abuse.

“If they have the courage to go forward, this allows victims a fighting chance to move beyond their abusive situation,” Mosquera said. “This isn’t about gun rights. It’s about keeping guns away from people who have shown a propensity for violence toward women.”

That’s why we have courts and due process. You want to protect women? Just skip the trial and lock the guy up for 5 years. Oh, can’t do that? He has rights, you say? Well, this right should be no different. Due process: you’ve heard of that, haven’t you?

It’s not surprising a bill is moving. The Dems in the legislature want to do two things: one is tempt Christie to sign a gun control law and ruin him as a serious 2016 candidate. The other is to dare him to veto, and help ensure he can’t deliver NJ’s electoral votes if he were the nominee.

Christie isn’t looking all that strong right now, but that could change if Jeb falls apart and the GOP money starts looking for another horse to bet on.

8 Responses to “Dog Bites Man: More Gun Control is in the Works in New Jersey”

  1. Archer says:

    “This isn’t about gun rights. It’s about keeping guns away from people who have shown a propensity for violence toward women.”

    And all the men who call the police on their abusive female partners? What about them? (By some estimates, 20-25% of “domestic violence” calls are instigated by the male partner.)

    I think it’s a stupid law either way, but if I were in NJ I’d be real particular on the wording of the law.

    Still, she has a point: it’s not about gun rights. It’s about due process rights, and how gun owners shouldn’t be entitled to them.

  2. rd says:

    “ruin him as a serious 2016 candidate.”

    That should be our job, and we should be thorough about accomplishing it. Anyone that thinks the terrorist watch list is grounds for denying anyone any rights is an idiot that does not understand the Bill of Rights, and Christie is unfit for ANY office.

  3. John says:

    It’s never about constitutional rights in New Jersey.

  4. Stuart the Viking says:

    I have to say, Christie is a non-starter. If given a choice between Christie and Clinton, I would choose to sleep in on election day. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are a number of other (somewhat) R leaning independents that feel the same way.

    Christie, to me, seems to be the perfect storm of all the things I hate about the Democrats, and (most*) of the things that piss me off about the Republicans, rolled up into a giant ball of BIG FAT BLOATED GOVERNMENT.

    If the Republican party can’t come up with a better candidate than Christie, then there is no longer any hope for the party.

    * only because, as far as I have seen, he hasn’t come out with any BS about using the bible as a science textbook, or how he just hates him some ghays and how we can’t let them marry (because clearly marriage belongs only to GGGOODDDDDD because they say so). I’m not holding my breath though, if he wants the nom, he’ll have to pander to the “base” sooner or later.

    • DaveP. says:

      It must really chap your ass that Christian Republicans are the only reason you have any gun rights at all, as without them you’d have All-Gungrabber-All-The-Time on the federal level.
      You’re welcome, BTW.

      • Stuart the Viking says:

        Not really. I don’t really think that it’s the “Religious Right” branch of the GOP that is doing the heavy lifting on gun rights.

        • Sebastian says:

          A lot of gun people are also Religious SoCos. But I don’t think there’s anything specifically Christian about gun rights. That’s just how our political coalitions work out.

          • Stuart the Viking says:

            Yes. There are SoCons who also support gun rights, however gun rights is not traditionally a SoCon issue, and there are SoCons who don’t support gun rights. There are also many non-religious, or non-Christian people who also do their part to support gun rights. So no, I don’t believe that the Christian Religious Right is the “only reason you have any gun rights at all”.

            I have seen that attitude from many in the Republican party and that attitude, in my opinion, has a lot to do with why so many would-be Republican voters are staying home instead. The Republican party has moved from being the small-government party of liberty, to being the (other) party of big government encroachment, with a side order of… well… this “It must really chap your ass that Christian Republicans are the only reason you have any gun rights at all” kind of attitude. Sorry, I reject that, and if the eventual Republican candidate exudes that same attitude, I KNOW he will fail, because only SoCons would happily vote for that, and SoCons, regardless of what they think, just don’t have the numbers to defeat the Democrats all by themselves.

            As much as it may surprise you, I’m not anti-Christian. Some of the best human beings I know are Christians. I AM, however, against Christians using the force of government to force their BELIEFS to be taught as SCIENCE in schools, or use the force of government to enforce that their view of marriage to be the ONLY one that is allowed.

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