Joe has a very well done and in-depth post about the whole philosophical divide between the pragmatists and the hard liners. Â I am actually not terribly against the “line in the sand” as a political philosophy. Â After all, the Second Amendment is such a philosophy. Â And if it ever came to a serious destruction of our rights, the “deal with us, or you get to deal with them” might be able to help arrive at a political solution. Â What I am against is the current form of the hard line philosophy. Â Like Joe, I just don’t see any reason to make a public spectacle when we’re still winning more than we’re losing. Â That could change, and if it changes, my attitude toward hard liners might change with it.