Vote Coming at 11:30

The voting on the Thune Amendment will begin at 11:30.  This will let us know who our real friends are in the Senate.  I will update as the voting proceeds.

UPDATE: DiFi was heard on C-SPAN talking about how strict the California licensing process is.  She would know, since she’s been through the process.

UPDATE: Thune is calling the Democrats out for using a VPC study which is largely crap.  Some of the alleged killers did not have permits, and one of them who did was never charged because it was self-defense.

UPDATE: Barassso just whipped out his Wyoming concealed carry license on the floor of the Senate.

UPDATE: Coburn just said he would support the Dems in the states right argument if they’d agree to a bill on enumerated powers and restoring the 10th Amendment.  Think there will be any takers?

UPDATE: I think the vote will be at noon.  Someone said 11:30.  Can’t remember where I saw that.  High Noon on the Senate floor… ha!

UPDATE: Barbara Boxer claims she’s never seen the phones in her office ring off the hook.  That sounds like a dare to California gun owners if you ask me.

UPDATE: Boxer just acknowledged DiFi’s personal experience with the California permitting process.

UPDATE: Webb and Warner were both yes votes.  Both Virginia Democrats.

UPDATE: Indiana Republican Dick Lugar voted no.  Evan Bayh, an Indiana Democrat, voted yes.

UPDATE: Democrat Bob Casey voted with us.  Former Republican and now Democrat Arlen Specter voted against us.

UPDATE: Gillibrand is a no too, but I gave up on her a while ago.  She’s switched sides.

UPDATE: Udall of Colorado voted yes.  We might break majority.  Holy crap, Bennett too!

UPDATE: Why did Specter vote no when a lot of fellow Democrats didn’t cave?   Webb & Warner were targeted with full page adds yesterday.  Bennett hasn’t had to face the voters yet and will in 2010.  Udall was never alll that reliable in the house.  They voted yes.  I think Specter made a mistake.  A big mistake.

UPDATE: Last call for vote changes.  Arlen?  Come on man.  We just picked up Pryor from AK.

UPDATE: Final vote 58-39.  The bill is defeated, as it needed 60 votes under the rule.  I told Bitter this morning I expected majority, but no passage.  We have done better than I would have anticipated, and this was a major piece of pro-gun legislation that would have altered the landscape significantly.

UPDATE: Expect gloating from the anti-gunners, but we came very close.  We will be back with this bill, or another like it.  They can take that to the bank.

31 thoughts on “Vote Coming at 11:30”

  1. It will be shortly, I think theres another 14 minutes left before voting.

    Watch for Durbin to play some games here in the waning minutes or once voting begins

  2. Did Babs Boxer just say leave us alone??? On gun laws??? Really??? Bizzaro World…Totally…

  3. As hysterical as some legislators are on this amendment, is it going to be a poison pill on the bill? Worse, are there enough votes to override a potential veto?

  4. actually what Boxer said was interesting. She didn’t say people were calling against the amendment. She just that they were calling. If they were calling against it, she would have made that very clear.

  5. No Chamber. The veto threat was to the F22 – which was stripped out yesterday. There is no veto threat to this, though Schumer had threatened a filibuster. The agreement which was reached was that both this amendment and the F22 would require 60 votes to attach – which presumably indicate sufficient support to overcome a filibuster and a veto.

  6. I like the Republicans in the minority. The get alot of pro-gun legislation through when the aren’t the majority.

  7. And Dick Lugar voted no and Evan Bayh voted yes.

    So much for Republican’s being pro gun and Democrats being anti gun!!!

  8. Funny, I was just talking about how Dick Lugar was pissing me off lately. It looks like Senator Bayh might be thinking about becoming President Bayh in 2016, which if so he’d probably have my support.

  9. Two votes, Arlen Specter and Dick Lugar (both allegedly pro-gun) would have swung this. I’m actually quite furious at Sen. Lugar right now.

  10. Sen. Nelson of Florida turned his back on us again. He voted against the citizens of Florida and instead voted for his party. One of his staffers told my wife that Nelson was voting against it because “it would cost too much money.” HUH?????

  11. Is there anywhere we can go to see the results of who voted yes and no? I’m curious what senators Klobuchar and Franken voted although I’m assuming it was a resounding no.

  12. Since it was an amendment and not a standalone bill, can it be offered for attachment to any later bill?

  13. So why does it need 60 votes rather than 50? I know sometimes senators will try to ensure they have 60 votes before calling for a vote to block the chance of a filibuster, but I thought that in order to pass you just need 51 regardless of roadblocks like a filibuster.

  14. Akaka (D-HI), Nay
    Alexander (R-TN), Yea
    Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
    Baucus (D-MT), Yea
    Bayh (D-IN), Yea
    Begich (D-AK), Yea
    Bennet (D-CO), Yea
    Bennett (R-UT), Yea
    Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
    Bond (R-MO), Yea
    Boxer (D-CA), Nay
    Brown (D-OH), Nay
    Brownback (R-KS), Yea
    Bunning (R-KY), Yea
    Burr (R-NC), Yea
    Burris (D-IL), Nay
    Byrd (D-WV), Not Voting
    Cantwell (D-WA), Nay
    Cardin (D-MD), Nay
    Carper (D-DE), Nay
    Casey (D-PA), Yea
    Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
    Coburn (R-OK), Yea
    Cochran (R-MS), Yea
    Collins (R-ME), Yea
    Conrad (D-ND), Yea
    Corker (R-TN), Yea
    Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
    Crapo (R-ID), Yea
    DeMint (R-SC), Yea
    Dodd (D-CT), Nay
    Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
    Durbin (D-IL), Nay
    Ensign (R-NV), Yea
    Enzi (R-WY), Yea
    Feingold (D-WI), Yea
    Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
    Franken (D-MN), Nay
    Gillibrand (D-NY), Nay
    Graham (R-SC), Yea
    Grassley (R-IA), Yea
    Gregg (R-NH), Yea
    Hagan (D-NC), Yea
    Harkin (D-IA), Nay
    Hatch (R-UT), Yea
    Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
    Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
    Inouye (D-HI), Nay
    Isakson (R-GA), Yea
    Johanns (R-NE), Yea
    Johnson (D-SD), Yea
    Kaufman (D-DE), Nay
    Kennedy (D-MA), Not Voting
    Kerry (D-MA), Nay
    Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
    Kohl (D-WI), Nay
    Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
    Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
    Lautenberg (D-NJ), Nay
    Leahy (D-VT), Nay
    Levin (D-MI), Nay
    Lieberman (ID-CT), Nay
    Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
    Lugar (R-IN), Nay
    Martinez (R-FL), Yea
    McCain (R-AZ), Yea
    McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
    McConnell (R-KY), Yea
    Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
    Merkley (D-OR), Nay
    Mikulski (D-MD), Not Voting
    Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
    Murray (D-WA), Nay
    Nelson (D-FL), Nay
    Nelson (D-NE), Yea
    Pryor (D-AR), Yea
    Reed (D-RI), Nay
    Reid (D-NV), Yea
    Risch (R-ID), Yea
    Roberts (R-KS), Yea
    Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay
    Sanders (I-VT), Nay
    Schumer (D-NY), Nay
    Sessions (R-AL), Yea
    Shaheen (D-NH), Nay
    Shelby (R-AL), Yea
    Snowe (R-ME), Yea
    Specter (D-PA), Nay
    Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
    Tester (D-MT), Yea
    Thune (R-SD), Yea
    Udall (D-CO), Yea
    Udall (D-NM), Yea
    Vitter (R-LA), Yea
    Voinovich (R-OH), Nay
    Warner (D-VA), Yea
    Webb (D-VA), Yea
    Whitehouse (D-RI), Nay
    Wicker (R-MS), Yea
    Wyden (D-OR), Nay

  15. Claire Mccskill voted no. Which will affect my decision for who I vote for in the next election and it won’t be her.

  16. It would cost FL some revenue as no one would bother paying for a FL permit when a PA permit is cheaper and easier to obtain.

  17. Like Caleb, I’m really mad at Lugar. I’ve been thinking for quite some time that he needs to come home.

    I supported Bayh for Senate back when he first ran for it, ironically against the Republican former mayor of Ft. Wayne, Paul Helmke. Today proves the wisdom of that support. If Bayh ran for president, he would have a decent chance of getting my vote, especially if his Republican opponent was a RINO like Mit Romney.

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