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What Happens When Non Gun People Design Gun Accessories

Does this winning smart holster really put a bar through the trigger guard? Seriously? That’s not how retention should work. Leave this stuff to gun people!

I give them credit for understanding that the smarts should be outside the gun rather than in it. I’ve been saying that for a while. But that holster is dangerous. Because the person who designed it likely knows nothing about guns or gun safety. Ironic, don’t you think?

The problem is, no gun person would waste their time on this because it’s not a product the market wants.

15 Responses to “What Happens When Non Gun People Design Gun Accessories”

  1. SWE says:

    What happens when non gun people design gun stuff?

    The L85 happens.

  2. beatbox says:

    I don’t know about that. It’s more about the process.

    Remember, Gaston Glock didn’t know anything about guns.

    But yeah, after reading how it works, having someone working the gun back and forth trying to release it will not end well.

  3. AnOregonian says:

    I don’t see that as nearly as big of deal.
    1.) So long as the muzzle is bottomed out, as it appears to be, then there’s no where for the gun to go in the direction to make it go off.
    2.) It would take only a minor modification to make it grasp the front of the trigger guard like nearly all other holsters do.

    To me the bigger problem is the battery life,
    “Battery life depends on how many times the gun is drawn from the holster, from three-and-a-half days if not drawn at all to a half day if drawn six times a day, Raj Kumar said.”

    But I expect even that is only a matter of development, just give someone like Aimpoint some time with it.

    • Sebastian says:

      Can the bar be guaranteed to never break loose in the trigger guard? It might be easily adaptable, but you’d think a million dollar design would have looked at other retention holsters to see how they work before reinventing the wheel badly.

      • AnOregonian says:

        I’m not defending them as amazing engineers or the next great thing, but I’m also not going to lambaste them for a prototype that still requires refinement.

        For comparison, this isn’t Armatix with their polished marketing and supposedly polished design, which can be defeated by a magnet or a drop of super glue in the right place.

        And in either case, I’m all for the anti’s to continue spending their big bucks for designs no one wants.

        • beatbox says:

          I don’t begrudge them the design either, altho it doesn’t seem the bar was set very high for $1M

          • Sebastian says:

            The bar was set right through the trigger guard, apparently :)

            I’m kind of wishing I had known there was a million dollar prize on the line!

    • pkoning says:

      So how long would the battery last if it’s drawn 100 times, as one might reasonably do in a training session?
      The real issue here is that we have gun haters trying to inflict their mental defects onto us law abiding citizens, without any Constitutional authority to do so.

    • Alpheus says:

      Then there’s the promise that drawing from the holster is going to be even faster! Because SAFETY!

      I, for one, do not trust fingerprint readers. Particularly if you’re trying to get your gun out of your holster as a response to the guy beating you, after having stabbed you, and then pushed you into the mud while it’s raining.

      But then, I guess it’s times like that for which the manual override was created, right?

      Oh, and for this to be a “safety” thing, you would have to have one for every gun you wish to carry with you…

  4. Ian Argent says:

    Fingerprint reader. Well, the tech there is getting better, I suppose. But it still is going to fail unsafe. The only people who are at regular risk of having their pistols taken out of their holsters by a determined opponent are the cops, who need to be able to draw their pistols first time every time.

    For the rest of us, a combo-lock gun safe and an old-fashioned retention holster will do the trick

  5. SPQR says:

    The DOJ model “smart gun” specs eliminated fingerprint readers by required function with glives. And requires failure modes to not disable the gun.

  6. Richard says:

    I will trust a smart gun/holster/etc when the President’s Secret Service protection detail starts using them (and nothing else). Until then, forget it.

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