12 thoughts on “Attention Young People”

  1. I never voted for socialism to begin with. Not to mention more government crap isn’t something that appeals to someone who just wants to be left alone.

  2. I was speaking more to the young people that are turning out to vote in droves for Obama. He has the young vote locked up in New Hampshire too. Not that I want Hillary to win, but in an open primary, these are young people that could be going for Fred.

  3. I never fell for that, I was always a constitutional conservative and voted for Ron Paul in my first Presidential Election. Voted R for the rest of them, but that doesn’t mean I like ’em all that much. Its more of a vote against the D candidate than a vote FOR R’s.

  4. What the hell is wrong with people my age? They need to read the Federalist Papers, Thomas Paine, Ayn Rand, Frederic Bastiat etc. and learn to rationally question policies for themselves.

    I just got done reading Bastiat’s “The Law” and Rand’s “The Virtue of Selfishness. Both do a great job explaining the evils of socialism.

  5. *shrugs* Fred lost my vote when I got the very anti-Hillary, anti-pro choice e-mail. Since clearly all of those who signed up as “Friends of Fred” where those that were lock-stepped into all of his values.

    It doesn’t make my choice of who to vote for any easier, but it did eliminate someone from the pool.

  6. Most of the young socialists I know are idealists. They won’t listen to my logical points because #1 I’m older, and #2, I don’t have a plan to make the world a Eutopia.

    When I mention all the millions of people dead and living below what we would call the poverty line all in the name of Karl Marx, they point out: #1. Those people were older, #2. they didn’t have a plan to make the world a Eutopia, and #3. Their ideals will work this time.

    Doesn’t mean I’ll stop trying. This is NOT an issue I’ll let slide

  7. As a young (26), but very conservative (in a laissez-faire sense) person, who is also a product of public schools, I must put the blame there. At least in my case, there is not enough (or any, I can’t remember) time spent on the failure and shortcomings of communism/socialism.

  8. I’m not that pessimistic all young people are socialists, and my post wasn’t meant to be taken entirely serious. Most people don’t honestly vote based on philosophy or a candidates position. Even voters that do still take personality into account.

    Obama’s appeal isn’t his message. I’m not honestly sure what his message is to be honest, other than “change”. I doubt most of the young people have dived in to see what his platform is. Obama’s appeal is that he is young, energetic, and a good speaker: something younger folks can relate with. I doubt most of his supporters have dove in far enough to realize he’s peddling the same old shit that Democrats have peddled since the 60s.

  9. “he’s peddling the same old shit that Democrats have peddled since the 60s.” Actually more like the 30’s.

    I went to the Truman library a few years ago and they had a list of his election planks on the wall. One of them was universal health care. This was a plank from 1948. They’ve been at this a long time.

  10. socialism in not the threat. Facism is. Two main differences.

    1. In socialism the state owns all the industry and business.

    1a. In facism a symbiotic partnership is formed between industry and business making it much more powerful.

    2. Socialism doesn’t work, no incentive to achieve or accomplish

    2a. Facism is very efficient because industry and business prosper and work together with government to keep the reins of power.

    Corallary: Neither party is actually socialist. Both are fascist with the only real argument between them being how the spoils of tyranny are distributed and to whom.

    Addendum: It may be correctly stated the fascism is a form or socialism. But it must be noted that it is a much more powerful form of tyranny because of the unity of purpose of the governmental and economic engines of the society in which it is practiced.

    In both, the effect on the average citizen is the same. Complete subjugation. However ordinary socialism is weaker and easier to easier to overthrow as their is only one enemy of the people, the state.

    In fascism, there are inummerable enemies (economic powers)of the people who acting in their self interests will support the state and its programs. That is the evolution we have been witnessing in this country for a long time now.

    Caution: We have not much time left to resolve this peacefully. We are too ignorant to recognize the danger, let alone, avoid it.

  11. 1a above should read “1a. In facism a symbiotic partnership is formed between industry and business and government, making it much more powerful.

  12. I’m 22 and I’ve voted every chance I’ve had (usually for crazy Libertarians or Republicans who didn’t suck) I find socialism (and collectivism in general) morally abhorrent and completely antithetical to liberty. Then again, I’ve actually read the Constitution and the Federalist Papers, and I fucking hate those stupid Che Guevara shirts.

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