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Prof. Joe Olsen Expressed Concern About St. Anthony Police

This was prior to the Castile shooting:

Instead, the stop was so troubling that he later went to the then-St. Anthony police chief to tell him he may have a serious problem with how the department conducts traffic stops. But the chief, Olson said, dismissed his concern.

“I told him that if you don’t fix this, you’re going to have an even bigger problem,” Olson said. “And that’s apparently what happened.”

Read the whole thing. Joe Olsen is one of the academics responsible for the Heller and McDonald decisions, and has been a RKBA activist for a long time. Longer than I’ve been alive.

6 Responses to “Prof. Joe Olsen Expressed Concern About St. Anthony Police”

  1. CarlosT says:

    The practices he describes are really horrible for the safety of everyone involved. I think if people take time and look at the facts, instead of bias, they will find that poor training and bad practices will be the root causes of these incidents when the shootings are not justified.

  2. Brad says:

    Well that was very interesting indeed.

  3. HSR47 says:

    Frankly, substandard training seems to be the rule rather than the exception with regard to police agencies in this country.

  4. rd says:

    According to our esteemed Minnesota Governor Dayton, Professor Olsen could not have been mistreated, because Professor Joe Olsen is a white man.

    There was another story in the local TV news about Officer Y. pulling over a woman. After he asked her to get something from her purse, he suddenly changed his mind, started screaming at her to stop, and dragged her out of her car. Supposedly this happened about six months ago?

    There is no body camera usage by the SA PD. I have a feeling this will end up as he said, she said, and the criminal burden of proof will not be met. The civil court will award millions to the estate of Mr. Castile.

  5. Old Law Prof says:

    A bad stop often results in a awful but legal shooting.
    The “rules”for Police Shootings are so lax that any conviction, ever, anywhere is a needle in the haystack.

    The US Supreme Court, and state prosecutors and judges who over read that opinion, is responsible for the near total lack of police accountability for the killing that officers do.

    Unfortunately, under the “rule” of Graham v. Connor (a section 1983 case involving mere injury, NOT a self defense to a fatality), when there is only one person testifying as a “reasonable OFFICER”, not as a “reasonable person”, the statement that “I feared for my life” is almost impossible to rebut absent inconsistent statements by that very officer. That explains the almost 100% clearance record. All it takes, for an officer, is SAYING THE MAGIC WORDS “I feared for my life.” Juries are of reasonable “persons” not of reasonable “officers” so they cannot question the testimony of the officers horde of other officers testifying as “expert witnesses”.

    So there is no verification by the jury (or the Judge) of the shooting’s necessity.

    Current police firearm training teaches “no hesitation” which often plays out as no thinking. In the Police scheme of vslues, 100 dead civilians are worth preventing one injured officer (wearing a protective vest, etc).

    It really is open season on everyone – Black, White, Hispanic, Asian, whoever the Police come in contact with.

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