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House Democratic 15 Point Plan

Released here:

  1. Support the 2nd Amendment rights of law-abiding Americans
  2. Support citizens’ rights to possess firearms for hunting, shooting sports, defense, and other lawful and legitimate purposes
  3. Reinstate and strengthen a prospective federal ban on assault weapons
  4. Reinstate a prospective federal ban on assault magazines
  5. Require a background check for every gun sale, while respecting reasonable exceptions for cases such as gifts between family members and temporary loans for sporting purposes
  6. Strengthen the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) database
  7. Prosecute those prohibited buyers who attempt to purchase firearms and others who violate federal firearm laws
  8. Pass legislation aimed specifically at cracking down on illegal gun trafficking and straw-purchasing
  9. Restore funding for public safety and law enforcement initiatives aimed at reducing gun violence
  10. Support initiatives that prevent problems before they start
  11. Close the holes in our mental-health system and make sure that care is available for those who need it
  12. Help our communities get unwanted and illegal guns out of the hands of those who don’t want them or shouldn’t have them
  13. Support responsible gun ownership
  14. Take steps to enhance school safety
  15. Address our culture’s glorification of violence seen and heard though our movie screens, television shows, music and video games

This is a huge, steaming crock of shit. “I support the Second Amendment!” has become the new refuge of scoundrels. Looking at this, they don’t much support the First Amendment either, given point 15.

31 Responses to “House Democratic 15 Point Plan”

  1. NotClauswitz says:

    They live in the swill and garbage of cultural decay that they have created, and claim to clean the toilet from the inside.

  2. jdrush says:

    I’ll give them 1. There is my compromise.

  3. Dannytheman says:

    Other than #1, I think the others are all CRAP.

    CRAP< CRAP< CRAP< CRAP !!

    That's the nicest thing I can say!

    I guess, Hell No, would work here. More calls to make now!

  4. Exurbankevin says:

    If they say they support the Second Amendment and then propose this, then I’m a vegetarian because I like lettuce on my double bacon cheeseburger.

  5. Pyrotek85 says:

    “I support the Second Amendment!”

    I have black friends!

  6. Rob Crawford says:

    I don’t see “incite rebellion”. Is that implied?

  7. AndyN says:

    I love that points 3 and 4 directly contradict points 1 and 2. And there’s such a thing as an “assault magazine” now? Just when I thought we were making progress because the talking heads are now saying “assault-style weapons” in tacit acknowledgment that they’re all bunched up over appearances and few civilians own military weapons.

    • Stacy says:

      An assault magazine is the magazine that I roll up and smack them in the head with when they say stupid things like “assault magazine”…

      • Archer says:

        I figured I wasn’t the only one who saw “assault magazine” and pictured a tightly rolled-up issue of TIME. Glad to know I was right!

        In all seriousness, a tightly-rolled magazine or newspaper makes an excellent improvised self-defense tool, but I wouldn’t advertise that too much, given our opponents’ maniacal hatred of self-defense.

  8. jeremys says:

    Delusional.

    I only see pelosi and Thompson in the article as backing this. Their California perspective is clouding their understanding of this country.

  9. Robert says:

    Brian Doherty over at Reason has an article discussing the way in which the gun grabbers have changed their tactics since they lost Congress in ’94 and the Presidency in 2000. Lip service to the Second Amendment is part of that.

  10. Michael says:

    On point #7, the US Attorney for the Southern District of WV just filed charges against half a dozen criminals in possession of firearms under federal law. 4 of them face 10 years, and the other 2 face 20 years.

    http://www.wsaz.com/news/huntingtonnews/headlines/Six-Indicted-on-Federal-Firearm-Possession-Charges-189943611.html

  11. Motor-T says:

    To point one: If the Second Amendment doesn’t protect arms particularly suited for military and militia use, what does the Second Amendmnet protect?

    • Arnie says:

      Exactly! The prime “legitimate purpose” of possessing arms protected by the Second Amendment is to kill federal tyrants (James Madison, The Federalist, #46)! Period!!!!! Hunting and sport shooting have nothing to do with it; self-defense is ancillary.
      – Arnie

  12. Eck! says:

    1, 2, 13 are lawful on face value. What they actually means is suspect.

    #15 runs afoul of the first amendment.

    Generally the rest is a stinking pile of contradicting guno.

    Eck!

  13. Joe Huffman says:

    This is actually good news. They will waste time pushing for stuff that will be argued over for weeks and/or months and cannot pass. The pain of the Sandy Hook shooting will fade some and we will stand a better chance of blocking stuff that might have been feasible a month ago.

  14. Patrick H says:

    Dems other 15 Point Plan:

    1. Support the 1st Amendment rights of law-abiding Americans
    2. Support citizens’ rights to speech for writing, blogging, politics, and other lawful and legitimate purposes
    3. Reinstate and strengthen a prospective Alien and Sedition Act
    4. Reinstate a prospective Espionage Act
    5. Require background checks for every journalist and blogger, while respecting reasonable exceptions for cases such as big media
    6. Create the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) database for writers and journalists
    7. Prosecute those prohibited speakers who attempt to circumvent laws
    8. Pass legislation aimed specifically at cracking down on anonymous posting on the Internet
    9. Restore funding for public safety and law enforcement initiatives aimed at reducing illegal speech
    10. Support initiatives that prevent problems before they start
    11. Close the holes in our mental-health system and make sure that care is available for those who need it
    12. Help our communities get unwanted and illegal protesters out of the hands of those who don’t want them
    13. Support responsible writing and speaking
    14. Take steps to enhance school safety by teaching kids to watch what they say
    15. Address our culture’s glorification of violence seen and heard though our movie screens, television shows, music and video games

  15. GunNoob says:

    As TJ says: “I support the 2nd Amendment” and “I’m a member of the NRA” seems to be the gun grabber equivalent of “I have a black friend.”

  16. BC says:

    Meanwhile, here’s what we’re looking at in California: http://www.mercurynews.com/politics-government/ci_22544460/californias-state-senate-democrats-roll-out-big-gun

    Notice in the second paragraph:”The 10-bill package constitutes the single largest gun control push in decades in the Golden State, which already boasts some of the nation’s strictest gun laws. It joins equally controversial proposals from Assembly Democrats that would regulate and tax ammunition sales and consider taking the state’s 166,000 registered assault weapons from their owners.

    Remember this the next time some asshat claims “no one is talking about confiscation, here.” Yes, actually, some people are.

  17. Jacob says:

    I would like to know SPECIFICALLY what their plan is for #13: Support responsible gun ownership. Seriously, what would they do?

    • Sebastian says:

      Responsible gun ownership is you can have a revolver in your home, provided you keep it in a safe, and never load or use it.

      • Archer says:

        It’ll be that until they decide that 5-8 rounds is too many and handguns too dangerous, and limit you to single-shot rifles, shotguns, and muskets (which must also be kept in a safe and never loaded or used).

  18. Andy B. says:

    Here’s my two-point plan for legislators:

    1. Eat shit.

    2. Die.

  19. When the South said, “You know, we have some ideas to reinforce the importance of the 13th and 14th amendments, which everyone knows are subject to reasonable limitations” in the Jim Crow era, the 82nd Airborne gave Gov Wallace some feedback.

    Will the 2A eventually be enforced at bayonet point in San Francisco? :-\

  20. R.Cabrera says:

    Quite a list to consider here. Aside from point one which I hold dearly as an American, Democratic and Republican legislators consider this, YOUR OWN RE-ELECTIONS OR LACK THEREOF. If you don’t have a plan for disarming criminals and mental defectives without punishing the law abiding gun owners such as myself,then you are not addressing the real problem. Its a socio-economic problem that drives outlaws and the mentally ill to prey upon the law abiding. Could it be that you fear the law abiding more than you do the criminals and the nuts ? If your not doing your sworn job to represent your constituency then every item below number 1 makes sense.

    • Andy B. says:

      “If you don’t have a plan for disarming criminals and mental defectives . . .”

      A point I frequently try to make, as an RKBA advocate who wants to see a pure RKBA movement, someday:

      While all of us who are good and decent people want to see crime reduced — an issue that should be treated purely, itself — it is not our responsibility to find solutions to crime, as the price for being allowed to keep our rights. The successful defense of our gun rights, and the pursuit of recovery of our lost gun rights, should be our sole focus. Once those are secure we can feel freed up to pursue other of society’s problems, of our individual choosing, but until then the part of the “national conversation” we need to focus on is defense of our rights.

  21. Veritas says:

    Do we get to have Clinton and Obama appear on TV and say “we swear we would never lie to you.”

    I trust the Neo communists like Barney Frank to do the right thing and tell us the truth.

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