The Brady folks don’t seem to be too happy about Joe’s Starbucks day:
In case you missed it, last Saturday was “Starbucks Appreciation Day.” No, it was not a gesture of support from lovers of strong coffee (like me). The “appreciation” was on behalf of Americans who believe it is their sacred right to have a handgun with them wherever they go – even to carry it openly to make sure the rest of us know who are the real defenders of the Second Amendment.
Hey, it’s not me, it’s the Supreme Court. It would seem they at least have some people who agree with them. There seems to be a plausible legal argument under Heller that there may be regulation on how arms are worn, in that you don’t have any real specific right to carry concealed, or openly, but that you do have a right to carry in some fashion. So take your pick — open or concealed. You can prohibit one, maybe, but you may not prohibit both. There’s an easy way to stop this — reform California’s permitting system to make it shall-issue.
I should also note that Starbucks Appreciation Day was Sunday, not Saturday. But we’re not really that strict. I got a muffin and French Vanilla Latte on Monday too, which I would also consider part of the appreciation, considering I’m not a coffee drinker. But add enough milk and sugar to anything, and I will drink it.
I bought an iced coffee (cream, no sugar) and a small package of those dark chocolate covered grahams at a Starbucks kiosk on the I294 tollway Sunday. Honestly, I prefer Dunkin Donuts coffee to any other, but felt I needed to show my appreciation.
“The real defenders of the Second Amendment” will do your movement more harm than good in the long run. That’s my prediction. The reason is very simple. You guys are almost completely wrong about guns, therefore the best way to make strides for your movement is surreptitiously and incrementally. Normal rational people are aghast at the open carry movement, as well they should be.
“You guys are almost completely wrong about guns, therefore the best way to make strides for your movement is surreptitiously and incrementally. Normal rational people are aghast at the open carry movement gun control movement, as well they should be.”
Fixed that for you. Unlike you guys, we actually do have facts on our side. Time after time after time the gun control movement claims that there will be blood in the streets after every single gun rights victory, and yet it never happens. Gun ownership has increased greatly over the past decade or so, and yet violent crime rates are down. States with the “best” Brady Ranking – i.e., those with the most strict gun control – have the highest crime rates, where as the ones who have the “worst” Brady Ranking have the lowest crime rates.
Additionally, the majority of Americans (and the US Supreme Court) believe that the 2nd Amendment protects the right to own firearms.
The facts simply don’t stack up in your favor, AT ALL.
Dangit. “open carry movement” should have a strike-through.
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“You guys are almost completely wrong about guns, therefore the best way to make strides for your movement is surreptitiously and incrementally. Normal rational people are aghast at the
open carry movementgun control movement, as well they should be.â€MikeB302000,
Are you sure we are completely wrong about guns?
When Concealed Handgun License (CHL) was introduced in Texas, anti-right advocates like you predicted “blood in the streets”.
The conviction rate for CHL holders last year was 0.26% of all convictions — who was wrong — the anti-rights or the pro-rights crowd?
Can you show any increase in crime or deaths attributable to Concealed Carry?
Can you show any facts supporting your case?
Heck, can you show any support for your statement about “normal people being aghast at open carry”?
By the way, I consider that another in your long line of insults toward me and gun owners in particular…..if we support Open Carry we must not be normal people…..how rude.
mikeb302000 Said,
February 27th, 2010 at 2:20 am
“Normal rational people are aghast at the open carry movement, as well they should be.”
Not where I live, but I don’t live in a chicken sh!t, pc, liberal state.
If a person is against guns they are most certainly NOT rational. Anti-gunners are mentally deficient and un-American. Move to another country that doesn’t have a 2nd Amendment if you’re an anti-gunner, your choices are a plenty mb3. Don’t let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out!
People aghast? Not around my area. I open carry a lot. I’ve been in retail stores, hospitals, Dr. offices, Community bldgs. and never seen this aghast thing. Then again perhaps it the rural living I do. We even have people here that were camo year round. Nobody cares.
People aghast? Not around my area. I open carry a lot. I’ve been in retail stores, hospitals, Dr. offices, Community bldgs. and never seen this aghast thing. Then again perhaps it the rural living I do. We even have people here that wear camo year round. Nobody cares.
This to me is the major difference between the gun control activists and the RKBA supporters. They try to cram their idealistic crap down everyone’s throats, and whine about it when people don’t buy their line. We encourage and educate on our position by showing people there’s nothing to be afraid of, and showing businesses in true capitalistic fashion that we’ll support them with our money if they at least respect our beliefs.
I bought my 3 dollar cup of coffee, educated the manager and left.
Maybe this ANTI group should stop going to Starbucks and threaten to stop buying there, but believe me even Starbucks knows you are a teeny, tiny, smidgen of a minority group that would not interrupt their revenue one iota. Gun owners, and gun friendlies, make up a serious number that any business person could grasp with a little light investigation.
Starbucks knows which decision hurts it’s bottom line more.
As a taxpayer in the state of California, I really resent the amount of resources that are being expended to check weapons being carried on the street. I’d like to see the state legislature ban the practice of UOC.