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Let’s Have A Conversation

Kurt Schlichter, who occasionally appears on Cam & Company, has this to say about having a conversation:

For once I agree with liberals. It’s high time to have a conversation about guns. Let’s start with the problem that there are far too few guns on our streets.

Wait, we can’t have that conversation. In fact, we’re not supposed to have what people might commonly describe as a “conversation” at all. We’re supposed to shut-up and listen as liberals, barely masking their unseemly delight at the opportunity, try to pin the murder rampage of one degenerate creep on millions of law-abiding Americans who did nothing wrong.

Read the whole thing. There’s a lot of anger out there on our side, and I think we need people out there being our cheerleaders. I generally tend to be a happy warrior, and after seeing so many “friends” on the right head for the hills in the wake of this, even I could use a pep talk. I’ve seen plenty of gun owners who basically say they aren’t going back to the 1990s. I believe them. I worry where this road is going to take us. More Americans, I think, should be worried too.

The overall big picture, the 30,000 foot view, to borrow a cliche, is that the huge election loss was utterly demoralizing for the center-right coalition. The left now believes they have a majority coalition, that they do not need to appeal to moderates, nor do they need to compromise. The November result has unleashed terrible forces, and after this tragedy, they are smelling the blood in the water. They see a path to cut us away from the center-right coalition and sweep us from the field. Those NRA assholes will finally get what’s coming to them! I don’t for a minute believe this is about grief. Grief is what we’re all going through. Grief is why many of us are late to this fight. Grieving people do not threaten to murder other human beings. At some point, we need to get our s**t together and start punching back, as Glenn Reynolds says, twice as hard, or we may see the terrible places this ends up going.

15 Responses to “Let’s Have A Conversation”

  1. Matt Rogers says:

    Sebastian,
    Do not lose faith. You and the other bloggers are the new media. You are the printing presses running in blacked out basements. You are the people who are organizing and leading in ‘secret’ meetings held in damp and shadowy places.
    You might not have wanted to be Samuel Adams, but you are, and I am happy that there are people like you that have the technical knowledge and are well spoken enough to put out your new ‘Common Sense’.
    Hang in there, do not lose faith, do not surrender of your own free will, and make no disloyal statements. Basically, for you, this means keeping up the good work. For the rest of us, get your smartphone, Nook, or photocopier ready, grab your four pounds of lead, and go win this thing.
    I pity those poor dumb bastards, I really do!
    –Matt Rogers

  2. George says:

    We can beat this back, but only if we hang together, and only if we come to the fight. They want you back in your closet. Don’t let them do it.

  3. Dannytheman says:

    Please pass along any pep talks. I could use one.

  4. harp1034 says:

    This is like 1995 after the Okla. City bombing. The NRA lost members, fair weather politicians deserted, weak gun owners got rid of their so called assault weapons, and others wet their pants.
    In the 1990s Soldier of Foutune had an article about burying guns. Col. Brown said it might be 10 to 50 years before they could be dug up. We might have to do it again. I said when the AWB expired in 2004 that we had a window to get what we wanted. People said I was off my rocker. Well it looks like it is comimg back worse than before. I hope I am wrong. Time will tell.

    • Joe Huffman says:

      I think the occasions to bury guns are extremely rare. If you really need to bury them to prevent their confiscation then it probably is time to use them.

      That said, I did bury some in the 90′s. They are still buried. I won’t be burying any more.

      • Alpheus says:

        I think an amusing alternative to burying guns–one that will work well after any gun ban, I might add–would be to buy equipment for a small machine shop, and an old junk car for scrap metal.

        A well-stocked machine shop: $5,000.
        An old, junky car: $100.
        Knowing that you could get around any sort of gun ban imaginable: Priceless!

        • jetfxr69 says:

          For those of us without the needed knowledge or skills (*YET), could you outline what would be the minimum set of equipment for a “well-stocked” machine shop? I was thinking about this the other day as the best panic-buying option, but didn’t even know where to start.

    • Alpheus says:

      And that’s one of the funny things about gun control advocacy: gun-grabbers like to say “we won’t ban any guns, you’re paranoid for wanting to do so!” but when something like this happens, gun-grabbers suddenly cry out, “We need to ban clips! We need to ban guns! We need to ban having a third child–just skip and have a fourth! We need to ban knives and pipes and rocks! We need to ban everything!” and those paranoid people get this silly idea gun-grabbers want to ban guns, so they go out and buy them, and some even go so far as to hide some of what they buy, because they are “paranoid” that government is going to come get them.

      If this isn’t proof that gun-grabbers are liars, I don’t know what is!

  5. Harold says:

    How do you square this with the fear I’ve been reading prior to this shooting of the Progressive worrying we’re going to take up arms simply to roll back Obama and the Democrat’s gains?

    Is this an uncommon fear, and too many believe we’ll sit passively as they disarm us?

    Anything with grandfathering fails due to Machiavelli’s “Never do any enemy a small injury”; only an outright confiscation, like those examples you like to cite of the U.K., Oz and California, would suffice.

    • Sebastian says:

      I think they had a coordinated plan in place. Either that, or they are much much more quick to react than we are.

      • Sebastian says:

        I’ll have more to say about this later, if I have time.

      • Harold says:

        or they are much much more quick to react than we are.

        Which is what you’ve all but been screaming for us to do (wait while they get going strong)?

        Fail.

        (Tell me if I’m getting to harsh on you.)

        • Sebastian says:

          After events like this, they are going to naturally have the advantage. I wasn’t going to suggest people start reacting until the facts were in. I still strongly disagree with the people who were out there shouting about arming teachers. I think that persuades no one except people who don’t need to be persuaded.

          In situations like this, you want the public to move on. Once they do that, we’re back to our natural energy and grassroots advantages. What you specifically don’t want is people thinking you’re nuts and entering the fight against you.

        • Sebastian says:

          But I’m noticing signs they may have had a pre-coordinated plan. Like, how quickly could our side gets professional looking signs made up ready to go the next business day after something that happened Friday? I mean, maybe they have anti-NRA signs sitting in warehouses that have gone unused for a while, but all these leftist groups and the media are suddenly coordinated and all on message? People don’t come naturally to that kind of discipline.

          • Alpheus says:

            I find the “Someone arranged for these shooters to do what they did” consipracies a bit of a stretch, but we also know that these kinds of things happen with just enough frequency, that it would be easy to prepare for the next one that happens…and just wait. It will come…

            The beauty of this strategy is when something like what happened in Oregon, where a mass-shooter was stopped by a random person carrying a gun (so the one person who got shot survived, and only the gunman died), isn’t going to trigger a response, for two reasons: there aren’t enough bodies, and it doesn’t fit the narraitive. So not only do you get to shout loud and clear when something *really* bad happens–you can successfully ignore those pesky little counter-examples as well!

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