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Excellent Analysis of Empire State Building Shooting

From When the Balloon Goes Up.

5 Responses to “Excellent Analysis of Empire State Building Shooting”

  1. Sage Thrasher says:

    This morning CBS is reporting a different total number of wounds in the suspect (shot 10 times they say) and a different total number of shots (they say the cops fired 16 times.) I don’t know whose report is more accurate, but if the cops DID hit the suspect 10 out of 16 times and still managed to wound 9 civilians, part of the problem may be with the type of bullets used.

    Here’s what CBS says: “Police officials have said the officers appeared to have no choice but to shoot Johnson, whose body had 10 bullet wounds in the chest, arms and legs.

    Police determined that three people were struck by whole bullets – two of which were removed from victims at the hospital – and the rest [6 more] were grazed “by fragments of some sort,” Kelly said.”

    Any thoughts about bullet choice being a factor here? Seems like either a lot of fragments or bullets going through the suspect to hit bystanders.

    • Jake says:

      One important thing to note: “10 bullet wounds” != “shot 10 times”. It could be 5 entry wounds and 5 exit wounds, it could be 4 entry wounds and 6 exit wounds (if a bullet fragmented inside the bad guy, say after striking a bone), or it could be almost any combination of entry and exit wounds adding up to 10. The real story of how many shots actually hit him, and how many may have overpenetrated, will only be known once the autopsy is done and released.

      Remember, the media makes stuff up if they don’t actually know it, and they only rarely actually know what they’re talking about.

    • Jake says:

      Also, remember that CBS lies when the truth doesn’t suit them.

      • Sage Thrasher says:

        “The real story of how many shots actually hit him, and how many may have overpenetrated, will only be known once the autopsy is done and released.” Good distinction. It will be interesting to know.

        As for CBS on guns, I think at least CBS’s Sharyl Attkisson’s reporting on Fast & Furious has been exemplary–what the press is SUPPOSED to do but often doesn’t. Admittedly that’s just one reporter.

  2. dustydog says:

    At least the police didn’t sexually harass him, download any viruses onto his computer, or get stressed out on the job about it. Since they spend more time in sexual harassment awareness training, computer security awareness training, and stress alleviation than they do at the gun range, we are forced to conclude that New York City considers these training activities more important.

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