There is Posturing and There’s Outlaw Biker Gangs

It’s not surprising that the gun control community postures over current events, because those events can sometimes help drive their narratives. When a kid steals a gun from a parent and does something untoward with it, it makes their case that all guns should be disassembled into pieces and stored in underground vaults in the backyard. When one of “mom’s little angel” teenagers gets ahold of a gun and shoots a few rivals and some bystanders, it’s not necessarily crazy on the part of our opponents to presume that maybe some kind of vague, “stricter background checks,” might find a sympathetic ear among voters.

But I have no idea what universe you think your average voter lives in to believe that if we only pass a few more background check laws, we can ensure that outlaw biker gangs are unable to get guns. That seems to be the narrative being floated by both Shannon Watts and her lapdogs in the media. Just look at what the LA Times has to say about one of the outlaw gangs involved in the Waco shootout:

Sunday’s confrontation in Waco also appears to have started as a result of a dispute involving the Bandidos, one of the world’s largest motorcycle clubs, with as many as 2,500 members in 14 countries, and one that’s engaged in distribution of heroin, cocaine and methamphetamine, according to the Justice Department. One of their mottoes: “We’re the people your parents warned you about.”

Yes, I’m sure if we just stop people from privately transferring guns, outlaw biker gangs will be reduced to settling their differences through pillow fights and rock/paper/scissors. It’s certainly not possible that a criminal enterprise, who already traffic in contraband, would have no problem obtaining guns or anything else they need to pursue their black market trade. But I think they really believe this.

Just recently, Everytown released a study showing that most people who shoot police officers are, you’re never going to believe this, prohibited persons. This was in response to a police officer in New York being shot to death. It’s almost like gun control doesn’t stop criminals from obtaining firearms, isn’t it? In the same vein, our favorite Brady Board member, over at her new blog, manages to account all the ways that Norway’s strict gun laws failed against a highly motivated lunatic with criminal intent, and then concludes that gun control laws work!

They don’t live in reality. Outlaw Biker Gangs aren’t going to be disarmed. Motivated lunatics will find ways to get guns. The only people their policies succeed in disarming are the people you didn’t have to worry about in the first place.

12 Responses to “There is Posturing and There’s Outlaw Biker Gangs”

  1. Braden Lynch says:

    I recommend upgrading to “Rock Paper Scissors Lizard Spock” to solve all biker gang disputes. It works on Big Bang Theory.

    While we are alluding to Star Trek, I demand that universities and other gun free zones erect Level 10 force field shields for protection. Oh course, I want a phaser rifle…so there goes the neighborhood.

    Seriously, does Shannon Watts have to be told to remember to breathe? She has to be the stupidest person on the planet or just plain evil. Pick one (or both).

  2. terraformer says:

    It’s going to get better when the facts on this brawl come out. Some of the dead were shot by cops and there were stabbings and beatings too. It’s not clear how many people actually got shot that night nor whether the cops may have shot more people than the gangs did. But this will be off the papers by the time the facts will come to light.

    • Jake says:

      “But this will be off the papers by the time the facts will come to light.”

      That seems to be the Standard Operating Procedure for the MSM. Get the Approved Narrative(TM) out early, so that when the real facts come out it’s no longer “news”, and people will be less likely to pay attention (and the ones who do won’t be believed, because “the news said”).

  3. beatbox says:

    Hate to say it, but they could have a horse to ride here. It all comes down to the number of guns that were legally owned.

    • Jake says:

      I’d bet that all but a few that were shot were shot either by someone with a felony record (or other disqualifier) or by the cops.

      In fact, I’ve already seen rumors that the cops shot more people than the gangs did, and that most of the injuries were caused by knives or other muscle-powered weapons.

  4. chiefjaybob says:

    I don’t know why, but I just wasted a few minutes over at Joan’s new site. Her second comment to this single thread was, “I actually have no idea what your point is Guy.” If you have any knowledge of our Joan, or have followed her at all, you’ll recognize this as her go-to reply when someone posits an idea that is in conflict with her mental illness. It’s as if she has it programmed into a keyboard short cut or something.

    • Sebastian says:

      She gets dismissive when someone starts to win an argument. Her next step will be getting the next word in, then censoring any further comments so it looks like she “won” the argument.

  5. Granny Grunch says:

    It will be interesting to see the reaction of The Antigun Group whe n the days come where groups of IsIs get together across the country with explosives and real AK47s/74s and do one of those multi massacre things. They will scream for the government to DO SOMETHING and that is what That One in The Whitehouse is waiting for.

    • HappyWarrior6 says:


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  6. Lance Lot Link says:

    Why not have background checks before anyone buys illegal drugs too. I’m sure most biker gang members would gladly fill out a few forms in triplicate, provide fingerprints, signature verification and sign a statement they are not a fugitive before they attempt to engage in illegal activities.

    If it saves the life of just one biker chick, isn’t it worth it?

  7. Jon says:

    The Brady Board member is obviously quite clueless about Norway’s gun laws. Magazines are not regulated. Nor are suppressors. After the Breivik shooting, Norway actually made their gun laws LESS STRICT. One of the changes? They added the Bushmaster AR-15 to their roster of semi-auto rifles you are allowed to buy (in case you didn’t like any of the other AR-15 brands that were already on the list). So if she’s a fan of Norway’s gun laws then presumably she supports repealing California’s ban on “assault weapons” and “high capacity magazines”.