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Excellent Observations of Colorado Shooting

From Tim, over at Gun Nuts Media:

Right at the anniversary of Newtown somebody tried to up the score, but because one good guy armed with a handgun was around we instead got a beautiful contrast between the worthlessness of the policy proposals of media figures, politicians, and celebrities and the very effective solutions proposed by the NRA and others who actually have a damn clue on what they’re talking about. Nothing the elites proposed stopped or would have stopped the little coward who went into that school intent on murder prior to the act, but a policy we as the gun community wholeheartedly support proved VERY effective at stopping him dead in his tracks before he could soak the ground with innocent blood.

Yep. The problem is there’s a certain segment of the population, and it’s probably much larger than any of us would be comfortable with, who will never accept it, no matter how much evidence is presented that we’re right.

9 Responses to “Excellent Observations of Colorado Shooting”

  1. AntiCitizenOne says:

    Don’t forget the idiot Clay Duke’s assault on a FL school board a couple of years ago – shot dead by an armed guard.

  2. Countertop says:

    The NY Times had an <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/magazine/inside-the-power-of-the-nra.html?src=me"excellent piece this weekend on the cluelessness of the Gun Bigots. Surprisingly, I haven’t seen it covered in the gun blogs. Though I suspect most wouldn’t bother reading it, since being in the NY Times they assume what the story was going to be. PLus, there’s been so much else out there too to comment on.

    In any case, this is a the paragraph that I was astonished to read, and is absolutely true.

    At roughly the same time that Franken and other Democratic senators were plotting their legislative strategy, their Democratic counterparts in the House met for an annual retreat in Leesburg, Va. Among the gathering’s main events was a seminar on how to talk to voters about firearms and gun legislation. But not one of the four panelists — a Yale law professor, a political reporter, a former Orlando police chief who ran for Congress on the Democratic ticket and the veteran Beltway strategist Anita Dunn — could claim a true appreciation of American gun culture. According to two attendees, when Dunn was describing the desirability of background checks, she used the word “registration” — thereby conjuring up the specter of a national registry of all licensed guns, a notion that is abhorrent to many gun owners, who fear that registering firearms with a federal agency would make it easier for the government to one day confiscate them. “She kept using the R-word,” one attendee recalls. “And what I took away was that nobody in the Democratic Party knows how to talk about this.”

    Kudos to Dunn for at least being honest though.

  3. Alex says:

    Unfortunately that “certain segment” is probably the vast majority.

    • HappyWarrior6 says:

      Hardly. There is a sound majority that doesn’t think any new gun laws would do much of anything, or would have prevented this shooting.

  4. Alex says:

    Didn’t the colorado shooter kill himself? I don’t recall hearing about any armed good guys.

    • HappyWarrior6 says:

      A sheriff’s deputy reportedly engaged him, with the shooter then turning on the gun on himself. I am not sure if any shots were fired in either direction from the reports, but the sheriff’s deputy was inside the building.

    • Matthew Carberry says:

      That’s the deflection line the anti’s always use. They only count a “good guy” use of a firearm to stop crime as real if it results in a dead bad guy from shots fired by the good guy.

      You see it in Kellerman’s nonsense and the attempted denial by the anti’s of the 14 individual studies by Kleck and others documenting successful DGU’s.

      In the case of these mass shooters, uniformly the shooters have shot until they decided to stop, like Lanza, or until they became aware of armed opposition (damn near every other case if you read more than the media reports). The “officiality” of the armed opposition doesn’t appear to matter as in may cases even the “professionals” were in plainclothes.

      What matters is the speed of opposition, faster the response, sooner the dead or surrendered shooter.

  5. Knucklehead says:

    CNN and the Denver Post reported an onsite Deputy Sheriff responded rapidly to the library area where the shots were fired, and that a witness said the shooter was aware of the deputy’s presence when he shot himself. No mention of the deputy firing on the shooter.

    http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_24724553/arapahoe-high-school-shooting-sheriffs-office-interview-hundreds

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/14/us/colorado-school-shooting/

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