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California Freezes Handgun Roster?

A tweet from California attorney Jason Davis indicates that California’s microstamping law is now in effect:

Based on this release this afternoon by the California DOJ, they are certifying the microstamping law in full effect.

According to the document, this effectively means that handguns not currently on the roster must have microstamping in order to get on the roster. Since no manufacturer makes this available, it would seem that the market for handguns is currently frozen and limited to guns already approved.

Not being an attorney, much less one who specializes in California gun laws, I’m sure there will be more people much smarter than me talking about the impact of this announcement that was released on a Friday afternoon.

22 Responses to “California Freezes Handgun Roster?”

  1. rick says:

    I’ve gotta get out of this state.

  2. TS says:

    Dovetails nicely with this bill working its way through the assembly:

    Assembly Bill 169 (Dickinson) BANS the sale of handguns not on the state-approved roster. This bill is so flawed that the provisions will BAN the sale of millions of old and used handguns CURRENTLY owned by Californians by dealers and PRIVATE PARTY transfers. AB 169 passed in the Assembly by a 43 to 27 vote on May 2and is now waiting to be scheduled for a hearing date in the state Senate Public Safety Committee. We will inform you when this date becomes available.

    • All that changes is that the sales of these guns will be driven underground. Make a law too difficult to comply with, it will be flouted.

    • Zermoid says:

      What effects does this law have on muzzleloaders?
      Or are they exempted from ‘gun laws’ entirely like on most other states?

      Pretty damn hard to microstamp a load of black powder!

  3. Crotalus says:

    No doubt exactly what these commies in power were counting on: Make a law requiring a non-existent technology, and Voila! No more new guns!

  4. Gimp says:

    I guess California gun owners will just have to start ignoring the law. You’d think that by now there wouldn’t be any gun owners left in the state. Does having nice weather really sufficient compensation for living in a police state?

  5. Weer'd Beard says:

    Also don’t handguns on the Cali roster need to re-certify every few years.

    IANAL but it sounds like unless some gun company saddles up with the Microstamping pricks, no new handguns at ALL in a few years.

    • No, they don’t have to re-certify, but they do have to renew their listing by paying the fee to renew. Guns currently on the Roster may stay their for as long as the manufacturer continues to pay the fee and make no substantive changes in the design.

      California has just become the Cuba of handguns: models available will be getting older and older. In effect, the microstamping requirement has made the roster a creeping handgun ban: the number of available models will dwindle over time until there are no more left.

      No, it is not worth living here. I am planning on moving out.

    • TS says:

      Manufactures have to pay annually to keep them on. If they stop making that model, then they’ll stop paying the fee. As I understand it. It will take more than a few years, but eventually this will amount to a ban on all non-C&R handgun sales (and transfers if AB169 passes).

  6. Law enforcement is, of course, exempt from the requirements of the Roster. It is a irony that the state allows their police officers to carry “unsafe” handguns, but that is the case.

    This development make it more urgent than ever that Pena v. Cid, the legal challenge to the Roster is won. I addition to this, pressure can be brought to repeal this “intolerable act” if handgun manufacturers refuse to sell to California law enforcement agencies.

    Let be the first to call on Glock, Smith & Wesson, Colt, Sturm & Ruger, and all other handgun manufacturers to refuse to sell their products to California law enforcement agencies unless and until the entire Roster is repealed.

    Enough is enough.

    • Brad says:

      “Law enforcement is, of course, exempt from the requirements of the Roster. It is a irony that the state allows their police officers to carry “unsafe” handguns, but that is the case.”

      Ah, the little remarked but gaping ‘cop loophole’! Closing it is the next frontier of gun-control in commiefornia (or it least it should be).

      • Zermoid says:

        So all a Kalifornia criminal has to do to get his hands on a “illegal” handgun is kill a cop and take his gun.
        I’d say that would be a win-win scenario from the crooks perspective.

  7. Instinct says:

    So glad I don’t live there anymore

  8. DJ in da US says:

    This would also appear to eliminate the sales of used, former law enforcement firearms to be sold. Or possessed?

  9. Brad says:

    Not a complete freeze, just a freeze on adding new self-loading pistols to the handgun roster. New model revolvers are not encumbered by requiring micro-stamping.

    Just another turn of the screw in commiefornia. The existing handgun roster already serves as a partial ban on handguns. The new micro-stamping requirements just make the roster even worse.

    • Zermoid says:

      So, what’s to stop a crook from simply buying a spare barrel or 2 and swapping out barrels?

      Other than auto’s with press fit barrels most are easy to switch out with other barrels that don’t have microstampings for criminal use, then simply discard the barrel and put the original back in to make the gun “legal” again afterwards.

  10. Just now tweet It…

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