Another Gun Running Scandal for ATF?

The LA Times is reporting there appears to be yet another gun running scandal involving ATF. This one is called White Gun. Some of the details of the investigation are startling:

According to the ATF documents, Guzman Patino told the undercover agent that “if he would bring them a tank, they would buy it.” He boasted he had “$15 million to spend on firearms and not to worry about the money.” He wanted “the biggest and most extravagant firearms available.”

The two met again outside a Phoenix restaurant, and the undercover agent showed Guzman Patino five weapons in the trunk of his vehicle, including a Bushmaster rifle and a Ramo .50 heavy machine gun. The undercover agent said he could get that kind of firepower for the Sinaloans.

Can someone from the other side explain to me how you’re going to keep an organization with a 15 million dollar arms budget disarmed?

The same undercover agent met the pair in February 2010 at a Phoenix warehouse. David Diaz-Sosa and Jorge DeJesus-Casteneda brought 11 pounds of crystal methamphetamine to trade for weapons. The undercover agent showed them shoulder-launched missiles, rocket launchers and grenades before ATF agents moved in and arrested them.

All of which you can surely buy at US gun shows. In ATF’s defense, it would seem that the guns lost in White Gun were accidentally lost, rather than deliberately lost, so this can at least be chalked up to incompetence, rather than malice.

2 thoughts on “Another Gun Running Scandal for ATF?”

  1. “Can someone from the other side explain to me how you’re going to keep an organization with a 15 million dollar arms budget disarmed?”

    Hell, some cartels are making their own submarines lol

    If the people of Khyber Pass can make guns from scratch in caves with little technology, then the cartels can afford to manufacture their own if they really needed to. It’s ridiculous for anyone to suggest that we’re going to cut off their supply of anything, much less easy to manufacture firearms.

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