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Votes on HR822 Amendments

Taken shamelessly from John Richardson, I’ll update vote totals under each amendment as the vote happens.

SUMMARY OF AMENDMENTS MADE IN ORDER

1. Woodall (GA): Would protect the rights of states that already have reciprocal agreements in place for the concealed carry of firearms to continue enforcing those preexisting agreements. (10 minutes)

Failed
Yea: 140, Nay: 280 

2. McCarthy, Carolyn (NY): Would specify that the legislation can only go into effect in states that have passed legislation enacting the bill. (10 minutes)

Failed
Yea: 145, Nay: 273 

3. Hastings, Alcee (FL): Would exempt states from issuing a carry permit on the basis of state reciprocity which do not require individuals to apply for and complete a carry permit application at their local law enforcement station. (10 minutes)

Failed
Yea: 148, Nay: 277

4. Jackson Lee (TX): Would require a state to create a comprehensive database that would contain all permits and licenses issued by the State for carrying a concealed weapon and would make this comprehensive database available to law enforcement officers from all states 24 hours a day. (10 minutes)

Failed
Yea: , Nay: I missed the totals. I’ll fill in later.

5. Conyers (MI): Would preserve state laws with respect to eligibility for concealed-carry. (10 minutes)

Withdrawn

6. Johnson, Hank (GA): Would require the possession or carrying of a concealed handgun in a state to be subject to that state’s law regarding concealed carry in regards to firearm safety training that includes live-fire exercise. (10 minutes)

Failed
Yea: 144, Nay: 281

7. Cohen (TN): Would exempt from the bill any State law requiring a person to be at least 21 years of age to possess or carry a concealed handgun. (10 minutes)

Failed
Yea: 150, Nay: 276

8. Jackson Lee (TX): Would require a person provide at least 24 hours notice to a law enforcement officer of the State of the intention to possess or carry a concealed handgun in the State (10 minutes)

Failed
Yea: 123, Nay: 299

9. Cicilline (RI): Would limit the bill from taking effect in a state until the State Attorney General, head of the State police, and the Secretary of State have jointly certified that the other state’s carry laws are substantially similar to its own licensing or permitting requirements. (10 minutes)

Failed
Yea: 146, Nay: 277

10. Reichert (WA): Would require a GAO study on the ability of state and local law enforcement authorities to verify the validity of out-of-state concealed firearms permits. (10 minutes)

Passed in the affirmative through voice vote.

I’m going to start a new post for final passage.

15 Responses to “Votes on HR822 Amendments”

  1. Pat says:

    How come they go so far past the time for voting?

  2. J.S.Bridges says:

    They’re in no hurry – they’re “doing the People’s business” – i.e., they’re operating on the taxpayers’ time and money.

  3. Dannytheman says:

    Thank you for doing this Sebastian!! I have been watching this all afternoon, and most of this crap got my blood boiling. I had to get up and walk around the floor for 10 minutes. 280 votes for Nay on these amendments looks promising if we can get 280+ for the Resolution the Senate might have to look closely.

  4. Nathaniel says:

    I’m looking at these votes in which Republicans have only one or two defectors but half of the Democrats are voting yea and I’m thinking YOU LACK DISCIPLINE!

  5. The Reichert Amendment (#10) was approved on a voice vote and passed. It mandates a GAO study on the ability of state and local cops to verify the validity of out-of-state CCW’s.

  6. Old Windways says:

    So is the Reichert Amendment (#10) in any way binding? Do the results of the study determine if the law goes into effect, or its just something that gets done as part of the law? If yes, then I’d worry about bias in study design, if no, it sounds like a wast of GAO time and money. Am I missing something here?

  7. Sterling Archer says:

    8. Jackson Lee (TX): Would require a person provide at least 24 hours notice to a law enforcement officer of the State of the intention to possess or carry a concealed handgun in the State (10 minutes)

    Failed
    Yea: 123, Nay: 299

    How the hell did they get 123 members to vote for that? It looks like 1 out of 3 Dems is reasonable. The other 2/3 are completely bat Sh*t crazy.

    • It’s called a poison pill amendment. You get it passed and you can scuttle the bill before it starts.

      • Sigivald says:

        Well, that and Lee presumably wouldn’t mind it passing with that, as it would effectively mean nobody could/would carry from another state.

        Good thing she doesn’t get what she wants all that often, huh?

  8. MikeSilver says:

    I can save the GOA alot of time and money ….. we can’t check the status in most states …. and we want to keep it that way.

    Licenses are an artifact of the early 1900’s when wireless computer terminals didn’t exist. They are stupid in an era of immediate access to crime databases in police vehicles and at radio centers.

  9. J.S.Bridges says:

    “…The other 2/3 are completely bat Sh*t crazy.”

    Congratulations – you now understand the essence of the Democrap Party and its involvement in “the democratic Gubmint legislative process”…

    That general frame of reference holds true for roughly 1/2 – 2/3 of the Senators who have a (D) after their name, as well.

    Been that way – or worse – for about 6 – 7 decades, now, at least.

  10. Sam P says:

    Nathaniel: I suspect that the Democratic Party leadership isn’t making this a party discipline issue. This is good news for supporters of gun rights (though perhaps bad news for people who want to make gun rights a partisan wedge issue). On the other side of the aisle, I suspect the Republican leadership twisted a few arms.

  11. Wes says:

    “8. Jackson Lee (TX): Would require a person provide at least 24 hours notice to a law enforcement officer of the State of the intention to possess or carry a concealed handgun in the State ”

    hahahahaha! Am I transporting hazardous materials or something? Who thinks up this crap? This is the United States of America, dummies!

    • Pyrotek85 says:

      It’d be kinda funny if they got bombarded with calls constantly, especially since they’d probably be required to do some kind of paperwork since you were planning to come to their state.

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