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At Least One Blogger on Terror Watch List

According to White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel, and the Brady Campaign, Chris from AK is no longer part of the American Family.

10 Responses to “At Least One Blogger on Terror Watch List”

  1. ZK says:

    Huh? He says he’s on the “no fly” list, and then talks about how he flies? Huh?

    Maybe he means the “terrorist watch list” which appears to have a bunch of random names and variations on it?

  2. ZK says:

    Oh, I see that is what he meant.

  3. Sebastian says:

    Oh… the terror watch list doesn’t stop anyone from getting on a plane. They just single you out for extra security and you can’t do certain things like automatic check-in. If they excluded people from planes based on a list, that would implicate constitutional issues, and all. But obviously the Bradys think that the RKBA is different somehow, and we can deny people that right based on the same list.

  4. Matthew Carberry says:

    I knew there was something shifty about Chris.

    About all of us up here in “have to detour to fly over it country” actually.

    We should get our own list.

  5. Dave says:

    It doesn’t take a great deal of foil in the hat to dislike a few things. 1. The classification of some domestic political opponents as potential terrorists. 2. The terror watch list that is arbitrarily compiled. 3. Last but certainly not least, the desire to deny firearms purchases to all on the aforementioned list without any due process.

  6. Let me clarify — I believe that I am a false positive with someone on the no-fly list. It is hard to verify as the actual list is classified. For example, Sen Steven’s wife is named “Catherine.” The famous British islam-convert and musician Islam Yusuf went by the stage name “Cat Stevens.” Thus, whenever the Senator’s wife flew the system saw “CAT STEVENS!!! OMG!” and flagged her. At check in she’d verify that she is neither a man or a rock star.

    Wikipedia pretty much describes the process:

    “When an airline ticket is purchased, the reservation system uses software to compare the passenger’s name against the No Fly List. If the name matches, or is similar to a name on the No Fly List, a restriction is placed in their reservation that prevents them from being issued a boarding pass until the airline has determined if they are the actual person whose name is on the No Fly List. Passengers are not told when a restriction has been placed on their reservation, and they normally do not find out that anything is unusual until they attempt to check in. “False positive” passengers cannot use Internet check-in or the automatic check-in kiosks in airports. Any attempt to use them will normally result in a message that the check-in cannot be completed and that the passenger needs to see a live check-in agent.”

    You can apply to DHS for a Traveler Redress (TRIP) number which helps. It doesn’t get you off the list, but you can provide that when you buy your ticket and sometimes it smooths the boarding pass process (but not always, each carrier has their own procedures). If you don’t have or provide a TRIP number, then when you check in you have to go to the counter and they make a phone call or use some other system to verify that you are a false positive.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Fly_List#False_positives

    Nevertheless, even after being cleared at the counter, I almost always get selected for extra screening at the TSA checkpoint and my checked luggage is almost always rummaged through. I even get hassled when traveling on official government business using my official government-issued identification. Another side effect is that the luggage may not make it at tight connections or if not checking in way early. Sometimes when you change carriers, you (and your stuff) also has to go through security again because each carrier has their own false positive procedures, so with a tight connection that can mess things up.

    So, finding a way to secure my checked baggage, avoid rummaging, and elevate the priority of my stuff (in the airline’s eyes) is good.

  7. ctdonath says:

    Overlapping topic: those of us with implanted medical devices get routed for special TSA handling. Having not flown since that painful day, any first-hand anecdotes on what to expect, and how this article’s suggestion may work for/against the benefit of us cyborgs?

  8. Oh, and I was on the list before I started blogging. In fact, the whole “Terror Gap” nonsense was one of the issues that motivated me to get involved in this subject. So it isn’t like I’ve been flagged for that activity. I’m guessing there is someone with a similar name.

  9. Dave says:

    I didn’t assume that to be the case. Your general situation just got me thinking, and I was thinking ot loud because anyone that speaks out strongly on a number subjects gets labeled an extremist these days.

  10. Dave,

    Yeah, I can thank GW Bush for being flagged I was actually hoping that the new administration would right some of the most egregious issues with the whole War on Terror/civil liberties issues from the GW days but that does not seem to be a priority. Seems that the Dems hated all those nasty civil liberties infringements until they were in charge, and then they became helpful and essential tools for national security or something.

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