3 thoughts on “Downer”

  1. Yup.

    On the plus side, I actually gave them a little traffic to see what was there, and checked their “scorecard” for my state. Was pleased to see it was only 4pts out of 100 for Missouri.

    And at least two of the four points, I don’t have a huge issue with in theory: “Employers not forced to allow guns in the workplace.” Again, it goes to personal choices; if a private business owner for whatever reason wants that rule in place, then he/she should have that right. Same thing with dress codes/uniforms, how your job gets done, etc.

    In practice though, if the workplace is open to the public (retail store or something), then there better be some kind of protection around just in case.

    Otherwise, Happy Independence Day!

  2. As far as parking lot ordinances go, I believe that you cannot ban firearms if this has the practical effect of preventing carry off your property (so that a property owner must provide/allow some way of securing the weapon for the patron/employee) and that in doing so the property owner may not disclaim responsibility for loss, theft or accident, nor may they disclaim responsibility for defending the patron/employee from death or bodily harm.

    IE, at least allowing storage in auto, and the lot must be secured. If you can’t secure the lot, provide lockers. If you don’t want either, suck it up and allow carriage. This would apply to all, even “sensitive locations”. Which do exist. If nothing else, a firearm is not “intrinsically safe” for the purposes of volatiles, and there are locations (such as courtrooms and prisons) where carriage of weapons by non-vetted persons is an articulatable safety risk (there being an elevated level of risk in exposing firearms to prisoners and defendants in the court building vs the average shopper at a mall) *and* armed and trained security. Both elements (articulatable risk and additional security) would define a policy-based “sensitive area”. For a physically-defined “sensitive area” that should be pretty obvious as well and limited to the actual unsafe areas – there are already guidelines for this for other non-intrinsically-safe items.

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