Comments on: Clamoring for Relevance http://www.pagunblog.com/2010/02/04/clamoring-for-relevance/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:18:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ian Argent http://www.pagunblog.com/2010/02/04/clamoring-for-relevance/#comment-56877 Ian Argent Sat, 06 Feb 2010 03:49:34 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=16371#comment-56877 Fair enough, and enjoy your weekend too. And my apologies - I let my enthusiasm for vigorous debate run away with me. Fair enough, and enjoy your weekend too. And my apologies – I let my enthusiasm for vigorous debate run away with me.

]]> By: Jill http://www.pagunblog.com/2010/02/04/clamoring-for-relevance/#comment-56874 Jill Sat, 06 Feb 2010 03:46:21 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=16371#comment-56874 Last post on this topic, I didn't mean to hijack the thread. Ian, Dick's didn't have to try and "break into that business". They bought into it with the Galyan's purchase and immediately liquidated the handgun business. Enjoy the weekend. Last post on this topic, I didn’t mean to hijack the thread.

Ian,

Dick’s didn’t have to try and “break into that business”. They bought into it with the Galyan’s purchase and immediately liquidated the handgun business.

Enjoy the weekend.

]]> By: Ian Argent http://www.pagunblog.com/2010/02/04/clamoring-for-relevance/#comment-56860 Ian Argent Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:12:19 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=16371#comment-56860 And my point is that, in NJ, they aren't taking the path of least resistance. They jumped through a LOT of hoops to put in a store near me that can sell guns, less than 5 years ago. NJ has no less requirements to be permitted to sell longarms than firearms. In point of fact, I buy some ammo from them every so often; and that's about it. I've bought no firearms from them and haven't really considered doing so. Next up on my do-want list are (in no particular order) an EBR, a SUB2K, and a .22 bolter. Only one of which I can get from them, and I suspect I can get a better deal elsewhere. But their target market *isn't* Caleb and his pistolgamers - it is the hunters. Why should they try and break into that business? And my point is that, in NJ, they aren’t taking the path of least resistance. They jumped through a LOT of hoops to put in a store near me that can sell guns, less than 5 years ago. NJ has no less requirements to be permitted to sell longarms than firearms.

In point of fact, I buy some ammo from them every so often; and that’s about it. I’ve bought no firearms from them and haven’t really considered doing so. Next up on my do-want list are (in no particular order) an EBR, a SUB2K, and a .22 bolter. Only one of which I can get from them, and I suspect I can get a better deal elsewhere.

But their target market *isn’t* Caleb and his pistolgamers – it is the hunters. Why should they try and break into that business?

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2010/02/04/clamoring-for-relevance/#comment-56859 Sebastian Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:12:09 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=16371#comment-56859 Sorry for reading more into that than you intended Jill. Sorry for reading more into that than you intended Jill.

]]> By: Jill http://www.pagunblog.com/2010/02/04/clamoring-for-relevance/#comment-56856 Jill Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:41:58 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=16371#comment-56856 I didn't write that Dick's was anti-gun anywhere on this site. I wrote that they were not a supporter of the second ammendment, in response to post #16. There is no requirement for them to be a supporter of anything, for that matter. They take the path of least resistance in any given situation to achieve their goal of turning a retail profit. Good on them. My bigger point was that I don't don't spend my gun dollars at ANY big retail store; they'll sell out the gun owner as quickly as they sell out of the blue light special. I have a personal history with Dick's that makes me especially dislike their attitude toward the gun owning public, and it is no coinkidink that they only sell Fudd guns. No conspiracies; no over-reach, no over-react. Support your local gun dealer or he won't be there one day. I didn’t write that Dick’s was anti-gun anywhere on this site. I wrote that they were not a supporter of the second ammendment, in response to post #16. There is no requirement for them to be a supporter of anything, for that matter. They take the path of least resistance in any given situation to achieve their goal of turning a retail profit. Good on them. My bigger point was that I don’t don’t spend my gun dollars at ANY big retail store; they’ll sell out the gun owner as quickly as they sell out of the blue light special.

I have a personal history with Dick’s that makes me especially dislike their attitude toward the gun owning public, and it is no coinkidink that they only sell Fudd guns.

No conspiracies; no over-reach, no over-react. Support your local gun dealer or he won’t be there one day.

]]> By: Carl from Chicago http://www.pagunblog.com/2010/02/04/clamoring-for-relevance/#comment-56855 Carl from Chicago Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:26:51 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=16371#comment-56855 I think that at times, people over-react and over-reach. For example, there was a Cabela's in Illinois that although they carried nearly all manner of firearms ... just because they didn't have .50 BMGs out for sale they were considered "anti-gun" by some. Give me a break. The extremes seem to be the loudest voices, sometimes. I think that at times, people over-react and over-reach. For example, there was a Cabela’s in Illinois that although they carried nearly all manner of firearms … just because they didn’t have .50 BMGs out for sale they were considered “anti-gun” by some. Give me a break. The extremes seem to be the loudest voices, sometimes.

]]> By: Ian Argent http://www.pagunblog.com/2010/02/04/clamoring-for-relevance/#comment-56854 Ian Argent Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:22:26 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=16371#comment-56854 Which is my point, really. We know Walmart is unconcerned by gunnies - witness their signing up with MAIG and that no Walmart in the Garden State carries firearms. Whereas in NJ Dicks carries longarms, ammo, gun supplies. In addition to paintball markets and spring-powered airsoft (the way NJ firearms laws are written, both conceivably could be firearms (airguns and spring guns expelling a projectile with enough force to injure) - though I don't understand their reluctance to carry gas-operated airsoft). And it's not exactly a small chunk of the local store to me, either. Which is my point, really. We know Walmart is unconcerned by gunnies – witness their signing up with MAIG and that no Walmart in the Garden State carries firearms.

Whereas in NJ Dicks carries longarms, ammo, gun supplies. In addition to paintball markets and spring-powered airsoft (the way NJ firearms laws are written, both conceivably could be firearms (airguns and spring guns expelling a projectile with enough force to injure) – though I don’t understand their reluctance to carry gas-operated airsoft). And it’s not exactly a small chunk of the local store to me, either.

]]> By: Ronnie http://www.pagunblog.com/2010/02/04/clamoring-for-relevance/#comment-56852 Ronnie Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:12:10 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=16371#comment-56852 Walmart has been very particular about which of its stores will stock things such as firearms ammunition and BB guns. I have noticed that the Walmart stores in South Philadelphia and in Baltimore, Maryland, do not carry any of these items in the sporting goods section. This is probably either because of Walmart's desire to maintain good relations with that powers that be in those two respective cities, or to be in compliance with local laws. The Walmart stores in suburban and rural ares of both Maryland and Pennsylvania generally sell both firearms ammunition and BB guns. New Jersey is just a whole other ballgame when it comes to Walmart - I doubt that any Walmart stores in the Garden state sell firearms ammunition, and definitely none of them would ever sell BB guns, since that state's laws considers them to be the same as actual firearms. Walmart has been very particular about which of its stores will stock things such as firearms ammunition and BB guns. I have noticed that the Walmart stores in South Philadelphia and in Baltimore, Maryland, do not carry any of these items in the sporting goods section. This is probably either because of Walmart’s desire to maintain good relations with that powers that be in those two respective cities, or to be in compliance with local laws. The Walmart stores in suburban and rural ares of both Maryland and Pennsylvania generally sell both firearms ammunition and BB guns.

New Jersey is just a whole other ballgame when it comes to Walmart – I doubt that any Walmart stores in the Garden state sell firearms ammunition, and definitely none of them would ever sell BB guns, since that state’s laws considers them to be the same as actual firearms.

]]> By: Ian Argent http://www.pagunblog.com/2010/02/04/clamoring-for-relevance/#comment-56843 Ian Argent Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:37:36 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=16371#comment-56843 Hell, they sell firearms and ammo in NJ - where the state laws are HARD - I believe Walmart stopped long ago. Hell, they sell firearms and ammo in NJ – where the state laws are HARD – I believe Walmart stopped long ago.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2010/02/04/clamoring-for-relevance/#comment-56841 Sebastian Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:35:14 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=16371#comment-56841 Jill, What makes you specifically think Dick's is anti-gun? Just the fact that they don't sell handguns? There's a reason they might not want to, namely that selling handguns brings into play numerous state level laws that add additional requirements, which they would then need to develop training materials for employees in how to follow the laws in those respective jurisdictions. Most jurisdictions don't restrict the kind of long arms that Dick's sells, so the process is going to be the same, or very similar for the vast majority of Dick's locations. That said, I don't shop at Dick's for gun stuff that often, so they wouldn't lose much business from me. But I'd like to know what evidence you have that they are anti-gun? Jill,

What makes you specifically think Dick’s is anti-gun? Just the fact that they don’t sell handguns? There’s a reason they might not want to, namely that selling handguns brings into play numerous state level laws that add additional requirements, which they would then need to develop training materials for employees in how to follow the laws in those respective jurisdictions. Most jurisdictions don’t restrict the kind of long arms that Dick’s sells, so the process is going to be the same, or very similar for the vast majority of Dick’s locations.

That said, I don’t shop at Dick’s for gun stuff that often, so they wouldn’t lose much business from me. But I’d like to know what evidence you have that they are anti-gun?

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