Comments on: Origins of the Sideways Grip http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/12/15/origins-of-the-sideways-grip/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:54:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jdude http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/12/15/origins-of-the-sideways-grip/#comment-54862 Jdude Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:17:46 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14990#comment-54862 I've tried the sideways grip. I have all of my new shooters try it once as well, to prove that it is a waste of time and ammo. Nobody I know has successfully or consistently hit a 10 yard target that way. I’ve tried the sideways grip. I have all of my new shooters try it once as well, to prove that it is a waste of time and ammo. Nobody I know has successfully or consistently hit a 10 yard target that way.

]]> By: Weer'd Beard http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/12/15/origins-of-the-sideways-grip/#comment-54798 Weer'd Beard Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:29:40 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14990#comment-54798 I once shot a pair of 1911s at once. One mag was enough to teach me that's a dumb technique and a total dead-end. A friend took my picture doing it....it even looked stupid. : ] I once shot a pair of 1911s at once. One mag was enough to teach me that’s a dumb technique and a total dead-end.

A friend took my picture doing it….it even looked stupid. : ]

]]> By: Bob S. http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/12/15/origins-of-the-sideways-grip/#comment-54785 Bob S. Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:45:47 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14990#comment-54785 MikeB302000, You explained nothing, you stated you weren't going to explain anything, remember? <i>About my having owned legal and illegal guns, I don't plan to expand on it. Sorry to disappoint. My personal life's experiences, including my experience with firearms, all contribute to making me who I am today.</i> So, once again we see that you are lying, big surprise there, eh? You continually refer to gun owners as people likely to break the law. Yet, you who have broken the law by your own admission, won't talk about subject related to that. I initially asked if you had ever used a sideways grip. You haven't answered. Even though you asked that question of others, you refuse to answer it. Kind of defines "hypocritical" doesn't it? You talk about guns flowing from legal to illegal hands ad nauseum on your blog. I'm just asking for your personal insight into the problem. If the law didn't stop you from purchasing/owning firearms illegally, what law will stop another person? MikeB302000,

You explained nothing, you stated you weren’t going to explain anything, remember?

About my having owned legal and illegal guns, I don’t plan to expand on it. Sorry to disappoint. My personal life’s experiences, including my experience with firearms, all contribute to making me who I am today.

So, once again we see that you are lying, big surprise there, eh?

You continually refer to gun owners as people likely to break the law. Yet, you who have broken the law by your own admission, won’t talk about subject related to that.

I initially asked if you had ever used a sideways grip. You haven’t answered. Even though you asked that question of others, you refuse to answer it. Kind of defines “hypocritical” doesn’t it?

You talk about guns flowing from legal to illegal hands ad nauseum on your blog. I’m just asking for your personal insight into the problem.

If the law didn’t stop you from purchasing/owning firearms illegally, what law will stop another person?

]]> By: mikeb302000 http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/12/15/origins-of-the-sideways-grip/#comment-54782 mikeb302000 Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:46:19 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14990#comment-54782 Bob, I've addressed all those questions <a href="http://mikeb302000.blogspot.com/2009/10/mikeb-and-illegal-guns.html" rel="nofollow">once</a>. Were you so dissatisfied with my explanation that you can't help but ask over and over again? I suppose you think you're harming me in some way by all this persistence. I think it just makes you seem obsessed and silly. Bob, I’ve addressed all those questions once. Were you so dissatisfied with my explanation that you can’t help but ask over and over again? I suppose you think you’re harming me in some way by all this persistence. I think it just makes you seem obsessed and silly.

]]> By: Bob S. http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/12/15/origins-of-the-sideways-grip/#comment-54780 Bob S. Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:07:20 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14990#comment-54780 MikeB302000, I notice that you don't talk about your own grip style. <i>Although the directors claim to have witnessed a side grip robbery in Detroit in 1987, there are few reports of street gangs using the technique until after the movie came out</i> Isn't that around the time that you <a href="www.wallsofthecity.net/2009/10/mikeb302000_lying_criminal.html" rel="nofollow">"legally and illegally owned"</a> firearms? So, tell us, Did you ever try the sideways grip? Speaking of telling the truth, you ever going to fess up to why you "illegally owned" firearms? Or what happened to them, especially considering how much you write about the "flow of firearms" from legal owners to illegal? Come on MikeB302000, here is an opportunity to share insight into things that many of us (law abiding gun owners) don't know about! MikeB302000,

I notice that you don’t talk about your own grip style.

Although the directors claim to have witnessed a side grip robbery in Detroit in 1987, there are few reports of street gangs using the technique until after the movie came out

Isn’t that around the time that you “legally and illegally owned” firearms?

So, tell us, Did you ever try the sideways grip?

Speaking of telling the truth, you ever going to fess up to why you “illegally owned” firearms?

Or what happened to them, especially considering how much you write about the “flow of firearms” from legal owners to illegal?

Come on MikeB302000, here is an opportunity to share insight into things that many of us (law abiding gun owners) don’t know about!

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/12/15/origins-of-the-sideways-grip/#comment-54768 Sebastian Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:06:58 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14990#comment-54768 I haven't, believe it or not. I haven’t, believe it or not.

]]> By: mikeb302000 http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/12/15/origins-of-the-sideways-grip/#comment-54767 mikeb302000 Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:01:34 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14990#comment-54767 How many of you guys have tried it? Tell the truth now. How many of you guys have tried it? Tell the truth now.

]]> By: Wai http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/12/15/origins-of-the-sideways-grip/#comment-54750 Wai Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:43:03 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14990#comment-54750 Didn't Hollywood also give us the gangsta pants-around-the-butt look? Didn’t Hollywood also give us the gangsta pants-around-the-butt look?

]]> By: Chas Clifton http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/12/15/origins-of-the-sideways-grip/#comment-54744 Chas Clifton Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:56:19 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14990#comment-54744 Fascinating discussion there at Slate. I am not sure about the G.W. Cable quote, since semiautomatic pistols were not much evident in 1894. "Directors may prefer the style because it makes it easier to see both the weapon and the actor's face in a tight camera shot." Now that sounds more likely! Moviemakers should also encourage the use of a pistol in each hand so that aiming is impossible. Fascinating discussion there at Slate. I am not sure about the G.W. Cable quote, since semiautomatic pistols were not much evident in 1894.

“Directors may prefer the style because it makes it easier to see both the weapon and the actor’s face in a tight camera shot.”

Now that sounds more likely!

Moviemakers should also encourage the use of a pistol in each hand so that aiming is impossible.

]]> By: Wolfwood http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/12/15/origins-of-the-sideways-grip/#comment-54719 Wolfwood Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:57:14 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14990#comment-54719 <i>I wonder what else Hollywood can do to make criminals continue to choose style over function?</i> Well, they helped the general public do that with the 2008 election... I wonder what else Hollywood can do to make criminals continue to choose style over function?

Well, they helped the general public do that with the 2008 election…

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