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	<title>Comments on: Family Values and the Economy</title>
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		<title>By: Joe Huffman</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/24/family-values-and-the-economy/#comment-53785</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Huffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bitter,

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.joehuffman.org/2009/11/26/OptimistOrPessimist.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My response&lt;/a&gt; was much too long for a comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bitter,</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.joehuffman.org/2009/11/26/OptimistOrPessimist.aspx" rel="nofollow">My response</a> was much too long for a comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/24/family-values-and-the-economy/#comment-53712</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JohnW:

I truly feel for you :) My father is in his early 60s as well, and I can&#039;t imagine him having a kid in college at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JohnW:</p>
<p>I truly feel for you :) My father is in his early 60s as well, and I can&#8217;t imagine him having a kid in college at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/24/family-values-and-the-economy/#comment-53709</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha.  College?  I&#039;m in my 60s and have a son in junior high, the little money-sucker.  Cry me a river.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha.  College?  I&#8217;m in my 60s and have a son in junior high, the little money-sucker.  Cry me a river.</p>
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		<title>By: Bitter</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/24/family-values-and-the-economy/#comment-53703</link>
		<dc:creator>Bitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll go ahead and put a stop to the &quot;get married now&quot; comments. There are valid arguments to do it, but I&#039;m not a big fan for a number of reasons.  First, we&#039;d still have to have some kind of ceremony or my mom and probably his aunt would kill us.  Believe me, it would not be pleasant.  Second, I know several people who have intended to go that route, but then they never actually had the ceremony part.  Again, we go back to people who would kill us.  Third, I&#039;m kind of in love with one particular location that costs a pretty big chunk of change &amp; really want to give that a shot.  Any short term gains would be minor compared to a) us being dead and b) waiting just a little longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll go ahead and put a stop to the &#8220;get married now&#8221; comments. There are valid arguments to do it, but I&#8217;m not a big fan for a number of reasons.  First, we&#8217;d still have to have some kind of ceremony or my mom and probably his aunt would kill us.  Believe me, it would not be pleasant.  Second, I know several people who have intended to go that route, but then they never actually had the ceremony part.  Again, we go back to people who would kill us.  Third, I&#8217;m kind of in love with one particular location that costs a pretty big chunk of change &amp; really want to give that a shot.  Any short term gains would be minor compared to a) us being dead and b) waiting just a little longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob K</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/24/family-values-and-the-economy/#comment-53701</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might not have a government permission slip, but you&#039;re married already. Get the government permission slip so you can get the the benefits, and put off the &quot;public declaration of commitment&quot; ceremony until later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might not have a government permission slip, but you&#8217;re married already. Get the government permission slip so you can get the the benefits, and put off the &#8220;public declaration of commitment&#8221; ceremony until later.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/24/family-values-and-the-economy/#comment-53700</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seven years on her. She still has some child bearing years left :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seven years on her. She still has some child bearing years left :)</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/24/family-values-and-the-economy/#comment-53698</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got married when I was still in college, didn&#039;t have $100 to my name. Kids came, any money is gone before I have any.

Financially sound before kids is really a silly idea they take all you have and then some.

... and I wouldn&#039;t trade it for the world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got married when I was still in college, didn&#8217;t have $100 to my name. Kids came, any money is gone before I have any.</p>
<p>Financially sound before kids is really a silly idea they take all you have and then some.</p>
<p>&#8230; and I wouldn&#8217;t trade it for the world!</p>
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		<title>By: Thirdpower</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/24/family-values-and-the-economy/#comment-53695</link>
		<dc:creator>Thirdpower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ld be surprised how even a frugal wedding can be nice.  Especially now people won&#039;t expect extravagance and a small, intimate wedding of only family and close friends can be had for less the $1k easy. 

You could also do a JoP wedding for legalities and do a formal one at a later date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ld be surprised how even a frugal wedding can be nice.  Especially now people won&#8217;t expect extravagance and a small, intimate wedding of only family and close friends can be had for less the $1k easy. </p>
<p>You could also do a JoP wedding for legalities and do a formal one at a later date.</p>
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		<title>By: Bitter</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/24/family-values-and-the-economy/#comment-53690</link>
		<dc:creator>Bitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, I&#039;m young enough to have several years. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, I&#8217;m young enough to have several years. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/24/family-values-and-the-economy/#comment-53689</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t just you, there&#039;s also her.  Pregnancy and childbirth get harder as we get older, despite modern medicine.

My brother in law is 60, one kid at 22 and another at 17.  While I&#039;m sure he would like a lessor financial worry, he wouldn&#039;t trade them for anything.  I started at 33, and sometimes I wish I had started a few years earlier, I remind myself that I might not have gotten the kids I have now and suddenly I can find that needed bit of energy.

It can be done.  Others have done it with less, with success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t just you, there&#8217;s also her.  Pregnancy and childbirth get harder as we get older, despite modern medicine.</p>
<p>My brother in law is 60, one kid at 22 and another at 17.  While I&#8217;m sure he would like a lessor financial worry, he wouldn&#8217;t trade them for anything.  I started at 33, and sometimes I wish I had started a few years earlier, I remind myself that I might not have gotten the kids I have now and suddenly I can find that needed bit of energy.</p>
<p>It can be done.  Others have done it with less, with success.</p>
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