Comments on: Lasers to Replace Air Pistols in Pentathalon http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/13/lasers-to-replace-air-pistols-in-pentathalon/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:52:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: comatus http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/13/lasers-to-replace-air-pistols-in-pentathalon/#comment-53005 comatus Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:17:13 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14267#comment-53005 The modern revival of the Olympics was brought about by Pierre de Coubertin. Guess what his sport was. The modern revival of the Olympics was brought about by Pierre de Coubertin. Guess what his sport was.

]]> By: Arizona Rifleman http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/13/lasers-to-replace-air-pistols-in-pentathalon/#comment-52983 Arizona Rifleman Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:23:22 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14267#comment-52983 mikeb: Additionally, lead-free bullets and primers do exist (though they tend to be considerably more expensive than lead bullets), and could be used in environmentally-sensitive areas or at the Olympics. mikeb: Additionally, lead-free bullets and primers do exist (though they tend to be considerably more expensive than lead bullets), and could be used in environmentally-sensitive areas or at the Olympics.

]]> By: Arizona Rifleman http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/13/lasers-to-replace-air-pistols-in-pentathalon/#comment-52982 Arizona Rifleman Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:21:54 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14267#comment-52982 mikeb: I think the major issue with the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetra-ethyl_lead" rel="nofollow">lead used in gasoline</a> was that it was burned and dispersed into the air. It could then be easily breathed. Additionally, it was able to spread through the air and settle on relatively distant things that could further spread contamination (e.g. if it drifted from a highway onto a nearby farm, aqueduct, reservoir, etc.). Lead from bullets remains solid and contained reasonably where it falls. While there is a small amount of airborne lead generated by the primer and the bullet impact, it's minimal and usually contained in the area where the gun is fired and where the bullet impacts, respectively. Many ranges retrieve lead from their backstops and recycle it, but even if left alone, the lead remains on the range. Even if it didn't, the amount of lead used in bullets is minuscule compared to the amount of lead used in gasoline, and wouldn't have anywhere near the effects that leaded gasoline would have. mikeb: I think the major issue with the lead used in gasoline was that it was burned and dispersed into the air. It could then be easily breathed. Additionally, it was able to spread through the air and settle on relatively distant things that could further spread contamination (e.g. if it drifted from a highway onto a nearby farm, aqueduct, reservoir, etc.).

Lead from bullets remains solid and contained reasonably where it falls. While there is a small amount of airborne lead generated by the primer and the bullet impact, it’s minimal and usually contained in the area where the gun is fired and where the bullet impacts, respectively. Many ranges retrieve lead from their backstops and recycle it, but even if left alone, the lead remains on the range.

Even if it didn’t, the amount of lead used in bullets is minuscule compared to the amount of lead used in gasoline, and wouldn’t have anywhere near the effects that leaded gasoline would have.

]]> By: mikeb302000 http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/13/lasers-to-replace-air-pistols-in-pentathalon/#comment-52967 mikeb302000 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:18:21 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14267#comment-52967 Some months ago I became convinced by Sebastian that lead at shooting ranges does not pose a major problem. It's odd then that the Olympic committee is concerned. And how does this apply to the lead in gasoline. In some countries they still have it. I remember, maybe in the 70s more or less, it was quite accepted that it caused serious problems. Is that a different kind of lead, one that's more transmissable than the solid lead in bullets? Some months ago I became convinced by Sebastian that lead at shooting ranges does not pose a major problem. It’s odd then that the Olympic committee is concerned. And how does this apply to the lead in gasoline. In some countries they still have it. I remember, maybe in the 70s more or less, it was quite accepted that it caused serious problems. Is that a different kind of lead, one that’s more transmissable than the solid lead in bullets?

]]> By: Lucky Forward http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/13/lasers-to-replace-air-pistols-in-pentathalon/#comment-52956 Lucky Forward Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:37:13 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14267#comment-52956 Ronnie at #14 hits the bulls-eye. The "green" smear of firearms is a way to discredit guns, from international sports all the way down to shooting sports in schools. It's a way to turn public sentiment against guns in a new way, and make them "uncool," especially with kids. I think this is a much bigger deal than some of the posts here would let on. Ronnie at #14 hits the bulls-eye. The “green” smear of firearms is a way to discredit guns, from international sports all the way down to shooting sports in schools. It’s a way to turn public sentiment against guns in a new way, and make them “uncool,” especially with kids. I think this is a much bigger deal than some of the posts here would let on.

]]> By: Guav http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/13/lasers-to-replace-air-pistols-in-pentathalon/#comment-52952 Guav Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:09:09 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14267#comment-52952 I think benEzra is correct. I think benEzra is correct.

]]> By: benEzra http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/13/lasers-to-replace-air-pistols-in-pentathalon/#comment-52951 benEzra Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:58:08 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14267#comment-52951 It would have been trivially easy to mandate lead-free pellets, if the "lead poisoning" argument were the real reason behind this change. Replacing air pistols with lasers instead of a much simpler requirement to use nontoxic shot suggests that it was the "gun-ishness" of the air pistols, and not the environmental impact, that may have been the primary driver here... It would have been trivially easy to mandate lead-free pellets, if the “lead poisoning” argument were the real reason behind this change. Replacing air pistols with lasers instead of a much simpler requirement to use nontoxic shot suggests that it was the “gun-ishness” of the air pistols, and not the environmental impact, that may have been the primary driver here…

]]> By: Jim http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/13/lasers-to-replace-air-pistols-in-pentathalon/#comment-52943 Jim Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:48:06 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14267#comment-52943 Could turn interesting if they could come up with a 5 watt laser pistol a la 'Terminator'. Air pistols seem pretty tame anyway. They have already taken the 'bang' out of the sport of shooting. Could turn interesting if they could come up with a 5 watt laser pistol a la ‘Terminator’.

Air pistols seem pretty tame anyway. They have already taken the ‘bang’ out of the sport of shooting.

]]> By: Tam http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/13/lasers-to-replace-air-pistols-in-pentathalon/#comment-52941 Tam Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:33:38 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14267#comment-52941 "<i>The Olympics should just give gold medals to all contestants, regardless of how good they did in the event.</i>" I hear the Norwegian judge has already given Barack a perfect 10.0 in the Men's 10-meter platform dive. “The Olympics should just give gold medals to all contestants, regardless of how good they did in the event.”

I hear the Norwegian judge has already given Barack a perfect 10.0 in the Men’s 10-meter platform dive.

]]> By: Guav http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/11/13/lasers-to-replace-air-pistols-in-pentathalon/#comment-52940 Guav Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:10:30 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=14267#comment-52940 Yes, feelings are the most important thing. I like the summer olympics. Winter olympics have always interested me less. Yes, feelings are the most important thing. I like the summer olympics. Winter olympics have always interested me less.

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