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	<title>Comments on: Accidental Firearm Death Rate Drops Again</title>
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		<title>By: The Four Rules in action at A Dixie Carpetbagger</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/10/30/accidental-firearm-death-rate-drops-again/#comment-52355</link>
		<dc:creator>The Four Rules in action at A Dixie Carpetbagger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (H/T Sebastian) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John A</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/10/30/accidental-firearm-death-rate-drops-again/#comment-52285</link>
		<dc:creator>John A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if quite a bit of the change may also be credited to firearms dealers? It used to be valid to assume that a purchaser, even an obvious first-timer, would have an experienced family member - or friend, neighbor, whatever - to coach them. It is within living memory that High Schools used to have rifle clubs (even Washington DC - go to Shorpy.com and search for pictures of the Girl&#039;s shooting team at a DC High School). That sort of thing is less common, and I suspect dealers now at a minimum have prominently-displayed pamphlets about safety if not  a policy of sales personnel offering the names of local clubs and instructors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if quite a bit of the change may also be credited to firearms dealers? It used to be valid to assume that a purchaser, even an obvious first-timer, would have an experienced family member &#8211; or friend, neighbor, whatever &#8211; to coach them. It is within living memory that High Schools used to have rifle clubs (even Washington DC &#8211; go to Shorpy.com and search for pictures of the Girl&#8217;s shooting team at a DC High School). That sort of thing is less common, and I suspect dealers now at a minimum have prominently-displayed pamphlets about safety if not  a policy of sales personnel offering the names of local clubs and instructors.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Schell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Schell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have &quot;taught&quot; only a few people how to shoot, besides my kids, but I harp on the four rules anywhere anytime guns safety comes up for discussion or I can steer a discussion that way.

Absent a mechanical failure, there is only negligence to explain an &quot;accident&quot; with a firearm, failure to follow one or more of the four rules.  That sounds harsh but there is no other choice.  And using that word tends to focus the listener...almost a challenge and offensive.  Fine with me, the stakes are too high to be polite about it.

Guns are not animate.  People are.  Not meaning to cause harm does not mean you were not negligent, that you failed in your duty to yourself and others.  Same with driving a car, if there are more situations which you cannot control what happens.

Preaching to the choir, sorry about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have &#8220;taught&#8221; only a few people how to shoot, besides my kids, but I harp on the four rules anywhere anytime guns safety comes up for discussion or I can steer a discussion that way.</p>
<p>Absent a mechanical failure, there is only negligence to explain an &#8220;accident&#8221; with a firearm, failure to follow one or more of the four rules.  That sounds harsh but there is no other choice.  And using that word tends to focus the listener&#8230;almost a challenge and offensive.  Fine with me, the stakes are too high to be polite about it.</p>
<p>Guns are not animate.  People are.  Not meaning to cause harm does not mean you were not negligent, that you failed in your duty to yourself and others.  Same with driving a car, if there are more situations which you cannot control what happens.</p>
<p>Preaching to the choir, sorry about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Acksiom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Acksiom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Perhaps if gun control groups are really interested in lowering death counts, rather than trying to take away our rights, they could work with us to create other such voluntary culture shifting paradigms? I wouldn’t count on it.&lt;/i&gt;

Me neither, based on past experience:

http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/05/nra-skewing-gun-violence-data/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Perhaps if gun control groups are really interested in lowering death counts, rather than trying to take away our rights, they could work with us to create other such voluntary culture shifting paradigms? I wouldn’t count on it.</i></p>
<p>Me neither, based on past experience:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/05/nra-skewing-gun-violence-data/" rel="nofollow">http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/08/05/nra-skewing-gun-violence-data/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ian Argent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Argent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realized the other day that the 4 rules can be very easily generalized to any power tool. (eureka moment, holding the drill with finger indexed on frame and little voice telling me &quot;Rule 1: The drill is always loaded...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realized the other day that the 4 rules can be very easily generalized to any power tool. (eureka moment, holding the drill with finger indexed on frame and little voice telling me &#8220;Rule 1: The drill is always loaded&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: boydk425</title>
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		<dc:creator>boydk425</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks looking for excellent training can find it in their area by looking here:
http://www.nrainstructors.org/searchcourse.aspx

Profficient shooters in the NW, with an interest in learning to teach and pass on their heritage could email me about the Instructor Development Workshop at kenmore range in Washington (http://wcwinc.org) in January. -Boyd Kneeland nra.idw@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks looking for excellent training can find it in their area by looking here:<br />
<a href="http://www.nrainstructors.org/searchcourse.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.nrainstructors.org/searchcourse.aspx</a></p>
<p>Profficient shooters in the NW, with an interest in learning to teach and pass on their heritage could email me about the Instructor Development Workshop at kenmore range in Washington (<a href="http://wcwinc.org" rel="nofollow">http://wcwinc.org</a>) in January. -Boyd Kneeland <a href="mailto:nra.idw@gmail.com">nra.idw@gmail.com</a></p>
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