Comments on: Dumbest Gun Parts http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/10/27/dumbest-gun-parts/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:25:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: SayUncle » Loaded Chamber Indicator http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/10/27/dumbest-gun-parts/#comment-52104 SayUncle » Loaded Chamber Indicator Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:06:00 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13834#comment-52104 [...] everyone thinks they’re a dumb idea. Even me. That is, until I read the latest American Rifleman and it had a review of the Kel-Tec [...] [...] everyone thinks they’re a dumb idea. Even me. That is, until I read the latest American Rifleman and it had a review of the Kel-Tec [...]

]]> By: FatWhiteMan http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/10/27/dumbest-gun-parts/#comment-52092 FatWhiteMan Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:30:14 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13834#comment-52092 Ditto on the magazine disconnect. I don't have to use an LCI if it is there. The only good way to avoid using a magazine disconnect is to not have one. Ditto on the magazine disconnect. I don’t have to use an LCI if it is there. The only good way to avoid using a magazine disconnect is to not have one.

]]> By: CMS http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/10/27/dumbest-gun-parts/#comment-52090 CMS Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:18:24 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13834#comment-52090 An additional point against the device: S&W 39/59 series pistols can be manipulated to fire without the magazine even with the disconnect in place; pressure on the trigger will prevent the disconnect lever from pushing the drawbar away from the sear. It's easy to perform intentionally - and can easily happen inadvertently to the unsuspecting. An additional point against the device: S&W 39/59 series pistols can be manipulated to fire without the magazine even with the disconnect in place; pressure on the trigger will prevent the disconnect lever from pushing the drawbar away from the sear.

It’s easy to perform intentionally – and can easily happen inadvertently to the unsuspecting.

]]> By: LFS http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/10/27/dumbest-gun-parts/#comment-52047 LFS Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:13:48 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13834#comment-52047 My English skills seem to suck today. My English skills seem to suck today.

]]> By: RAH http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/10/27/dumbest-gun-parts/#comment-52042 RAH Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:01:32 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13834#comment-52042 My target S&W 41 has the magazine disconnect which I have always disliked. It has a cocked indicator but not a loaded indicator. I like the cocked indicator and I like the lock back of the slide after the last shot since I do not keep track of my shots. The only purpose for a magazine disconnect is to discourage dry firing that I can think off. It serves no other purpose. My target S&W 41 has the magazine disconnect which I have always disliked. It has a cocked indicator but not a loaded indicator. I like the cocked indicator and I like the lock back of the slide after the last shot since I do not keep track of my shots.

The only purpose for a magazine disconnect is to discourage dry firing that I can think off. It serves no other purpose.

]]> By: LFS http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/10/27/dumbest-gun-parts/#comment-52025 LFS Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:03:58 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13834#comment-52025 A loaded chamber indicator seems useful for confirming that there is a round in the chamber when you believe there should be one, such as a failure to feed. Of course you aren't suppose to use that for treating the gun less carefully. Just like you aren't suppose to use a traditional chamber check to violated Cooper's rule #2. I was taught never to do that, even if the slide is locked back. Magazine disconnects only serve to frustrate you when disassembling a gun or perform a function test. At least that is all I can figure they are for. A loaded chamber indicator seems useful for confirming that there is a round in the chamber when you believe there should be one, such as a failure to feed. Of course you aren’t suppose to use that for treating the gun less carefully. Just like you aren’t suppose to use a traditional chamber check to violated Cooper’s rule #2. I was taught never to do that, even if the slide is locked back.

Magazine disconnects only serve to frustrate you when disassembling a gun or perform a function test. At least that is all I can figure they are for.

]]> By: Mad Saint Jack http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/10/27/dumbest-gun-parts/#comment-52001 Mad Saint Jack Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:36:47 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13834#comment-52001 A few months back a shooter at the range had a new Ruger MK III. He suffered a case failure, and when I looked at the gun I had to inform him that his loaded chamber indicator had been blown out of the gun. A few months back a shooter at the range had a new Ruger MK III. He suffered a case failure, and when I looked at the gun I had to inform him that his loaded chamber indicator had been blown out of the gun.

]]> By: hazmat http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/10/27/dumbest-gun-parts/#comment-51993 hazmat Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:56:54 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13834#comment-51993 I would have to agree. I once had a Walther P22 that had that neat little giz-wizzee. I don't know if it was the design of the mag or that of the disconnect, but in order to shoot that pistol, I had to teacup my grip so I could get enough pressure on the mag so it would disengage the safety. Shortly after I discovered this little flaw, I dumped the pistol in favor of something more, shall we say, distinguished? A Kimber UCII, and I haven't looked back since. Won't ever own another firearm that has that little piece of engineering hell anywhere near it. I would have to agree. I once had a Walther P22 that had that neat little giz-wizzee. I don’t know if it was the design of the mag or that of the disconnect, but in order to shoot that pistol, I had to teacup my grip so I could get enough pressure on the mag so it would disengage the safety. Shortly after I discovered this little flaw, I dumped the pistol in favor of something more, shall we say, distinguished? A Kimber UCII, and I haven’t looked back since. Won’t ever own another firearm that has that little piece of engineering hell anywhere near it.

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