Comments on: Personal Protection Poll

By: James Nelson

James Nelson — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:40:58 +0000

Useless and pointless, the questions are slanted to get a positive result for a .22 for self defense. Self defense is about stopping a threat and a .22 is the poorest hand gun cartridge for that purpose. Not only is it woefully underpowered, rim fires are far more likely to misfire than any center fire cartridge.

By: Weer'd Beard

Weer'd Beard — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:24:10 +0000

Caleb, what about a VZ 62 Skorpion! That’s a pretty nifty .32!

Also I’ll note that I’m allaergic to dogs, so the chances of my life being made miserable by a dog in my house is 100%, the chance of it saving my life is much smaller.

I’m not allergic to Skorpions!

neat survey.

Also I’m not sure about the .22 LR vs .45 ACP in penetration. Certainly the heavy .45 will be less dissuaded by contact with bone.

Also I’m curious about their definition of “Expanding” most of the ballistic gel .22 tests I’ve seen the round rarely expands, even if it’s a hollow point….

By: M Gallo

M Gallo — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:53:35 +0000

My parents have had Golden Retrievers for some time now; when a 60lb. female Golden starts growling in the dark, there’s really no way to tell it’s not a 200lb. German Shepard, and I don’t think I’d want to stick around to find out. for some reason, theirs have always liked to sleep blocking the front door, too.

By: Caleb

Caleb — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:39:20 +0000

I actually would go with the .25 over the .32, if for no other reason than I’ve found that most “defensive” .25s are easier to shoot well than a pocket sized .32 ACP. At those levels, you’re not exactly talking “hammer of thor” stopping power anyway, so shootability becomes a lot more important.

By: Richard Mann

Richard Mann — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:05:45 +0000

First, thanks for linking to the poll on GunPundit.

Second, thanks to all that have completed and will complete the survey – honestly.

Third, I especially appreciate the comments. Keep ‘em coming.

Finally, for those that did not like the “push poll” nature of the survey, that think my conclusions are forgone or would like additional background information, http://www.ramworks.net/blog/?p=154

By: Murdoc

Murdoc — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:05:35 +0000

Thanks for the link, Sebastian. And I like and agree with your comments.

As for dogs, I was once skeptical of them unless trained guard/attack dogs, but I’ve changed my tune. Ours are great alarm systems and though not fighters would probably help give the bad guy at least a moment of pause if it came down to it.

Seconds count, and a dog can buy several of them even if it does nothing else.

By: Ramworks » Blog Archive » .22 LR AS A DEFENSIVE CARTRIDGE

Ramworks » Blog Archive » .22 LR AS A DEFENSIVE CARTRIDGE — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:54:52 +0000

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By: mac

mac — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:02:59 +0000

Question 3: dog. It’s a much better deterrent both before and after someone tries to enter your property. I have boxers. They’ll either stop the perp or at least preoccupy him until I’m done calling 911 and getting a bigger weapon. Even small dogs that bite are intimidating. They cannot be reasoned with, they cannot be appealed to, and they’re much harder to sweettalk than humans.