Comments on: There will eventually be a day … http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/09/21/there-will-eventually-be-a-day/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:54:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: elmo iscariot http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/09/21/there-will-eventually-be-a-day/#comment-49850 elmo iscariot Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:53:38 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13067#comment-49850 Eventually we'll have to fight to get AP handgun rounds back, simply because cheap, comfortable body armor will have made conventional ammunition effectively useless... But let't take our fights one at a time. ;) Eventually we’ll have to fight to get AP handgun rounds back, simply because cheap, comfortable body armor will have made conventional ammunition effectively useless…

But let’t take our fights one at a time. ;)

]]> By: comatus http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/09/21/there-will-eventually-be-a-day/#comment-49810 comatus Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:00:36 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13067#comment-49810 Oh, it will stop a 9mm fine. But what about a .45 long, with its increased diameter, mass, inertia and momentum? From a bull barrel? What about that, huh? I'm working on a vest made of 14" of ballistic gelatine, since nothing seems to get through that in the comparison tests. And that M4 bullet with a nanotube core can't be far behind. Think I'll have Izhmash run me off a batch with my next order. Oh, it will stop a 9mm fine. But what about a .45 long, with its increased diameter, mass, inertia and momentum? From a bull barrel? What about that, huh?

I’m working on a vest made of 14″ of ballistic gelatine, since nothing seems to get through that in the comparison tests.

And that M4 bullet with a nanotube core can’t be far behind. Think I’ll have Izhmash run me off a batch with my next order.

]]> By: NJSoldier http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/09/21/there-will-eventually-be-a-day/#comment-49756 NJSoldier Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:38:57 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13067#comment-49756 Brad - My argument every time I hear a Pentagon drone swearing the M16/M4 in 5.56 is the right choice for years to come. One day, we'll get into a real war with a real military that wears real body armor. We better have rifles that are far more accurate than M4 carbines or far more powerful - preferably both. Brad – My argument every time I hear a Pentagon drone swearing the M16/M4 in 5.56 is the right choice for years to come.

One day, we’ll get into a real war with a real military that wears real body armor. We better have rifles that are far more accurate than M4 carbines or far more powerful – preferably both.

]]> By: Brad http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/09/21/there-will-eventually-be-a-day/#comment-49745 Brad Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:43:12 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13067#comment-49745 If the current heavy armor, which I believe is only rated to stop three close hits of 7.62mm ball ammo, becomes widespread, it doesn't mean the end of conventional small arms. It just means the end of small caliber automatic weapons like the AK-74 and M-16. Larger caliber (though slower firing) rifles are likely to keep ahead in the race with body armor for some time. If the current heavy armor, which I believe is only rated to stop three close hits of 7.62mm ball ammo, becomes widespread, it doesn’t mean the end of conventional small arms. It just means the end of small caliber automatic weapons like the AK-74 and M-16.

Larger caliber (though slower firing) rifles are likely to keep ahead in the race with body armor for some time.

]]> By: richard allen http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/09/21/there-will-eventually-be-a-day/#comment-49733 richard allen Tue, 22 Sep 2009 00:37:45 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13067#comment-49733 Need to preempt banning of weapons that can defeat this tech. Need to preempt banning of weapons that can defeat this tech.

]]> By: Paladin http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/09/21/there-will-eventually-be-a-day/#comment-49731 Paladin Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:21:22 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13067#comment-49731 Shoot for the head and the inner thighs. Use Hollow Points. Nex ut Tyrannus. Paladin P.S. Remember "they" line up on each side of the door and drywall etc. does NOT stop Hi veliocity rounds. Shoot for the head and the inner thighs.

Use Hollow Points.

Nex ut Tyrannus.

Paladin

P.S. Remember “they” line up on each side of the door and drywall etc. does NOT stop Hi veliocity rounds.

]]> By: Dixie http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/09/21/there-will-eventually-be-a-day/#comment-49729 Dixie Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:25:13 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13067#comment-49729 Nice Dune reference, Wolfwood. Also, why bother when upgrading projectiles when you could just design a "lightning gun"? Doesn't matter how well armored the guy is, if he's grounded, he fries. Nice Dune reference, Wolfwood.

Also, why bother when upgrading projectiles when you could just design a “lightning gun”? Doesn’t matter how well armored the guy is, if he’s grounded, he fries.

]]> By: Wolfwood http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/09/21/there-will-eventually-be-a-day/#comment-49727 Wolfwood Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:06:57 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13067#comment-49727 This seems to me more like one-half of a very effective combination. A thin layer of bulletproof material over another thin layer of super-material shock absorber would essentially be the modern equivalent of chain mail and leather. Obviously personal shields would be better, but there's always the chance that someone will use a laser weapon to cause an atomic explosion. It's just too risky. This seems to me more like one-half of a very effective combination. A thin layer of bulletproof material over another thin layer of super-material shock absorber would essentially be the modern equivalent of chain mail and leather.

Obviously personal shields would be better, but there’s always the chance that someone will use a laser weapon to cause an atomic explosion. It’s just too risky.

]]> By: Pete http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/09/21/there-will-eventually-be-a-day/#comment-49726 Pete Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:54:12 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13067#comment-49726 Flamethrower. Crispy nanotubes! Flamethrower.

Crispy nanotubes!

]]> By: Crucis http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/09/21/there-will-eventually-be-a-day/#comment-49723 Crucis Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:23:08 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=13067#comment-49723 Rail-guns, baby! That's the coming thing. Rail-guns, baby! That’s the coming thing.

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