Comments on: Look to the Cookie http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/07/look-to-the-cookie/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:49:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sigivald http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/07/look-to-the-cookie/#comment-47445 Sigivald Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:07:26 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12199#comment-47445 moose: I prefer not to be in a business where WalMart can compete - ie, mass-produced inventory-heavy consumer goods. And if they do, well, that saves <I>everyone</i> money, making everyone better off. There's a reason nobody much makes a living making buggy whips anymore. Stupid automobiles, ruining livelihoods. (That said, no Samoa clone? No sale.) moose: I prefer not to be in a business where WalMart can compete – ie, mass-produced inventory-heavy consumer goods.

And if they do, well, that saves everyone money, making everyone better off.

There’s a reason nobody much makes a living making buggy whips anymore. Stupid automobiles, ruining livelihoods.

(That said, no Samoa clone? No sale.)

]]> By: comatus http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/07/look-to-the-cookie/#comment-47402 comatus Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:38:55 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12199#comment-47402 Some good comments there. My kid met his first girlfriend in the Boy Scouts (Venture Crew! Venture Crew!). I just had an amusing chat with a former national champion at Camp Perry, who's been a scouter with both lodges all her life. She said she liked Girl Scouting a lot, until she got into the upper reaches as a mid-teen and they said to heck with camping out, let's have a fashion show; then she couldn't get away fast enough. Obviously there's no percentage in trying to predict what will keep adolescent females involved in an organized activity. That's not a misogynist crack, it's a national emergency. Somehow, we're raising women in niches. We "teach" (tolerate) them to have their thinking done by gangs of BFF fashionistas. Setting aside the quandaries this creates for similarly-aged males, it's caused Title IX to ride rough shod over college athletics, fiscallly outlawing traditionally co-ed teams like fencing and rifle. Something's not working here. All that from a Girl Scout cookie. Well, from what I've seen, 4H is still going strong, so there is that. Some good comments there. My kid met his first girlfriend in the Boy Scouts (Venture Crew! Venture Crew!). I just had an amusing chat with a former national champion at Camp Perry, who’s been a scouter with both lodges all her life. She said she liked Girl Scouting a lot, until she got into the upper reaches as a mid-teen and they said to heck with camping out, let’s have a fashion show; then she couldn’t get away fast enough. Obviously there’s no percentage in trying to predict what will keep adolescent females involved in an organized activity.

That’s not a misogynist crack, it’s a national emergency. Somehow, we’re raising women in niches. We “teach” (tolerate) them to have their thinking done by gangs of BFF fashionistas. Setting aside the quandaries this creates for similarly-aged males, it’s caused Title IX to ride rough shod over college athletics, fiscallly outlawing traditionally co-ed teams like fencing and rifle. Something’s not working here.

All that from a Girl Scout cookie. Well, from what I’ve seen, 4H is still going strong, so there is that.

]]> By: David http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/07/look-to-the-cookie/#comment-47396 David Sun, 09 Aug 2009 05:43:58 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12199#comment-47396 When I was in boy scouts and my sisters were in girl scouts in the 70s The girls didn't get to go camping, hiking or shooting. My mother had my two best friends and I take her girl scout group on a weekend camp out. According to the council leader at the time she thinks that those 10 girls were the only girls in the council who left girl scouts knowing how to pitch a tent, build a fire, cook over that fire, or hike off into the woods then find your way back again. My daughters have been in girl scouts now for several years. They go on one camp out a year and sleep in a cabin. My son has been in boy scouts now for 2 years and had been on 20 camp outs, and has earned both his rifleman and shotgun shooting merit badges. Not much has changed in 30 years. When I was in boy scouts and my sisters were in girl scouts in the 70s The girls didn’t get to go camping, hiking or shooting. My mother had my two best friends and I take her girl scout group on a weekend camp out. According to the council leader at the time she thinks that those 10 girls were the only girls in the council who left girl scouts knowing how to pitch a tent, build a fire, cook over that fire, or hike off into the woods then find your way back again.

My daughters have been in girl scouts now for several years. They go on one camp out a year and sleep in a cabin. My son has been in boy scouts now for 2 years and had been on 20 camp outs, and has earned both his rifleman and shotgun shooting merit badges.

Not much has changed in 30 years.

]]> By: Bill http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/07/look-to-the-cookie/#comment-47392 Bill Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:14:07 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12199#comment-47392 tecjack said: "Um, did a quick search. Seems the Girl Scouts used to offer badges: Rifle Shot 1913, same as Marksmanship 1916." But its not likely under the present regime. Girl Scouting has a really poor retention rate for older girls, and the Boy Scouts now offer a coed program for older youth called Venturing, for youth from age 14 to 20, which emphasizes high adventure outdoor activities. It is largely youth led, and I asked our Council's Venturing President some years ago, knowing she had been in Girl Scouts before moving over, what had induced her to make the change. Her answer: "All we ever did in Girl Scouts was to sit in a circle and get in touch with our feelings." No, I don't think we'll see Girl Scout marksmanship in the foreseeable future. tecjack said:

“Um, did a quick search. Seems the Girl Scouts used to offer badges: Rifle Shot 1913, same as Marksmanship 1916.”

But its not likely under the present regime. Girl Scouting has a really poor retention rate for older girls, and the Boy Scouts now offer a coed program for older youth called Venturing, for youth from age 14 to 20, which emphasizes high adventure outdoor activities.

It is largely youth led, and I asked our Council’s Venturing President some years ago, knowing she had been in Girl Scouts before moving over, what had induced her to make the change.

Her answer: “All we ever did in Girl Scouts was to sit in a circle and get in touch with our feelings.”

No, I don’t think we’ll see Girl Scout marksmanship in the foreseeable future.

]]> By: teqjack http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/07/look-to-the-cookie/#comment-47390 teqjack Sat, 08 Aug 2009 22:00:21 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12199#comment-47390 Um, did a quick search. Seems the Girl Scouts <i>used to</i> offer badges: Rifle Shot 1913, same as Marksmanship 1916. http://www.vintagegirlscout.com/badgefelt.htm Which I shall add to the snapshots of the Washington D.C. Girl's Rifle Club of the early Twenties (search www.shorpy.com/). Um, did a quick search. Seems the Girl Scouts used to offer badges: Rifle Shot 1913, same as Marksmanship 1916.

http://www.vintagegirlscout.com/badgefelt.htm

Which I shall add to the snapshots of the Washington D.C. Girl’s Rifle Club of the early Twenties (search http://www.shorpy.com/).

]]> By: teqjack http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/07/look-to-the-cookie/#comment-47389 teqjack Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:46:39 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12199#comment-47389 So, has Nabisco (for example) complained about the Girl Scouts selling vanilla-creme cookies? No? So, has Nabisco (for example) complained about the Girl Scouts selling vanilla-creme cookies? No?

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/07/look-to-the-cookie/#comment-47385 Sebastian Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:59:24 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12199#comment-47385 I don't think there's any risk of Wal-Mart getting involved in pharmaceutical research. I don’t think there’s any risk of Wal-Mart getting involved in pharmaceutical research.

]]> By: Dannytheman http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/07/look-to-the-cookie/#comment-47383 Dannytheman Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:48:53 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12199#comment-47383 Girl Scout cookies are an addiction... If they would just sell the damn things all year long, then the "underground" wouldn't one in on their recipes, but NNNoooooooo, they want it locked up. Make them more available... Until then, I'm off to Wall Mart!!! Girl Scout cookies are an addiction… If they would just sell the damn things all year long, then the “underground” wouldn’t one in on their recipes, but NNNoooooooo, they want it locked up.

Make them more available… Until then, I’m off to Wall Mart!!!

]]> By: moose1507 http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/07/look-to-the-cookie/#comment-47381 moose1507 Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:27:56 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12199#comment-47381 All I have to say is you all better PRAY that Wal-Mart doesn't decide to get into whatever business you do to support yourselves/family. All I have to say is you all better PRAY that Wal-Mart doesn’t decide to get into whatever business you do to support yourselves/family.

]]> By: workinwifdakids http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/07/look-to-the-cookie/#comment-47380 workinwifdakids Sat, 08 Aug 2009 18:20:55 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=12199#comment-47380 There isn't a cookie in the world worth what the Girl Scouts charge. What we know is that we're giving the Scouts a donation, and in return receiving a token of their appreciation. To avoid national, council, and district taking their share of our profits when we sold popcorn, we'd just have our own fundraiser for "Friends of Troop xyz," and buy our own stuff with it. There isn’t a cookie in the world worth what the Girl Scouts charge. What we know is that we’re giving the Scouts a donation, and in return receiving a token of their appreciation.

To avoid national, council, and district taking their share of our profits when we sold popcorn, we’d just have our own fundraiser for “Friends of Troop xyz,” and buy our own stuff with it.

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