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		<title>By: workinwifdakids</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/03/protecting-the-president/#comment-47064</link>
		<dc:creator>workinwifdakids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol ^</description>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/03/protecting-the-president/#comment-47056</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 19:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess he went to the Jules Winnfield school of dignitary protection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess he went to the Jules Winnfield school of dignitary protection.</p>
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		<title>By: workinwifdakids</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/03/protecting-the-president/#comment-47051</link>
		<dc:creator>workinwifdakids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From http://cryptome.info/usss-hands/usss-hands-pt6.htm

The photo of the event shows the individual in question - the African American agent with the revolver - had his finger extended over the trigger guard, and not on the trigger.

Considering what he was going through, that&#039;s quite a testament to their training.</description>
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<p>The photo of the event shows the individual in question &#8211; the African American agent with the revolver &#8211; had his finger extended over the trigger guard, and not on the trigger.</p>
<p>Considering what he was going through, that&#8217;s quite a testament to their training.</p>
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		<title>By: workinwifdakids</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/03/protecting-the-president/#comment-47050</link>
		<dc:creator>workinwifdakids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never noticed the African-American secret service agent with his revolver upward at 0:14 scream, &quot;You MOTHAF^#ER!&quot;

That&#039;s an event I&#039;d just as soon not witness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never noticed the African-American secret service agent with his revolver upward at 0:14 scream, &#8220;You MOTHAF^#ER!&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an event I&#8217;d just as soon not witness.</p>
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		<title>By: workinwifdakids</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/03/protecting-the-president/#comment-47045</link>
		<dc:creator>workinwifdakids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a non-issue.  How do you think the Secret Service snipers examine the crowd?  Their rifle scopes are attached to a rifle, aren&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a non-issue.  How do you think the Secret Service snipers examine the crowd?  Their rifle scopes are attached to a rifle, aren&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: BadIdeaGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/03/protecting-the-president/#comment-47040</link>
		<dc:creator>BadIdeaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sebastian, I think you&#039;ve got a reasonable take on this. I was in DC a lot in the Clinton years and saw his motorcade, and never saw an M4 in the back of the suburban, but the big dude glaring out the back (most likely with one in close reach) was there.  

I&#039;m pretty sure Bush had (at least the big gorilla in the back of the suburban) m4&#039;s in his motorcade.  I think it&#039;s a function of living in a post-9/11 world. 

I get pretty irritated with DHS/etc labeling people with views on the right potential domestic terrorists, but as far as the secret service goes, I&#039;ll give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they had information on a specific threat- I&#039;m guessing they don&#039;t publicize them.

Plus, like Matt Groom said, I want Obama protected as well as possible.  Not only because he is the President, but also to keep the words &quot;President Biden&quot; from ever being uttered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sebastian, I think you&#8217;ve got a reasonable take on this. I was in DC a lot in the Clinton years and saw his motorcade, and never saw an M4 in the back of the suburban, but the big dude glaring out the back (most likely with one in close reach) was there.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure Bush had (at least the big gorilla in the back of the suburban) m4&#8242;s in his motorcade.  I think it&#8217;s a function of living in a post-9/11 world. </p>
<p>I get pretty irritated with DHS/etc labeling people with views on the right potential domestic terrorists, but as far as the secret service goes, I&#8217;ll give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they had information on a specific threat- I&#8217;m guessing they don&#8217;t publicize them.</p>
<p>Plus, like Matt Groom said, I want Obama protected as well as possible.  Not only because he is the President, but also to keep the words &#8220;President Biden&#8221; from ever being uttered.</p>
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		<title>By: countertop</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/03/protecting-the-president/#comment-47038</link>
		<dc:creator>countertop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most capitol hill police and secret service rifles (well, firearms) are pointed down most times. 

I&#039;ve seen them in the suburbans with them pointed up on rare occaison - mostly as a function of space (they want them available to bring to action, if the trucks crowded if could get tight bringing a gun up and out of the window). That said, I&#039;ve NEVER seen a secret service agent with his finger on the trigger, and so am not too concerned with a ND occurring (considering one hasn&#039;t yet - and these guys are armed for war at all times is pretty telling). 

As far as this &quot;controversy,&quot; some people have too much time on their hands and/or are trying to drive page hits (which I can fully understand).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most capitol hill police and secret service rifles (well, firearms) are pointed down most times. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen them in the suburbans with them pointed up on rare occaison &#8211; mostly as a function of space (they want them available to bring to action, if the trucks crowded if could get tight bringing a gun up and out of the window). That said, I&#8217;ve NEVER seen a secret service agent with his finger on the trigger, and so am not too concerned with a ND occurring (considering one hasn&#8217;t yet &#8211; and these guys are armed for war at all times is pretty telling). </p>
<p>As far as this &#8220;controversy,&#8221; some people have too much time on their hands and/or are trying to drive page hits (which I can fully understand).</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/03/protecting-the-president/#comment-47031</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t think of a bigger recent target than Obama would be.  I have every confidence that Aryan Nation or others are contemplating something, giving that the targets for their particular bile is now occupying the Oval Office.  So, I imagine the Secret Service might be a bit more edgy.  I know I would be.

Heck, maybe it&#039;s safer if BHO is overseas.  In any case, I certainly prefer the current to President Biden.  Grainy pictures and rantings of someone who thought they saw something on a particular day don&#039;t really add up to any sort of statistical curve leading to some nefarious conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t think of a bigger recent target than Obama would be.  I have every confidence that Aryan Nation or others are contemplating something, giving that the targets for their particular bile is now occupying the Oval Office.  So, I imagine the Secret Service might be a bit more edgy.  I know I would be.</p>
<p>Heck, maybe it&#8217;s safer if BHO is overseas.  In any case, I certainly prefer the current to President Biden.  Grainy pictures and rantings of someone who thought they saw something on a particular day don&#8217;t really add up to any sort of statistical curve leading to some nefarious conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: LFS</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/03/protecting-the-president/#comment-47028</link>
		<dc:creator>LFS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in a suburb of DC and get to witness the secret service in action all the time.  In fact, I once accidently road my bike through a secure zone and ended up cycling very close to President Clinton&#039;s motorcade... kinda funny in retrospect.  But I&#039;ve seen the black SUVs driving around plenty of times, and I&#039;ve been behind them in traffic to witness the agent looking straight back at me. And I&#039;ve never seen them point a firearm out of the window.

I have no problem with the president being protected with heavy firepower.  I do wish he&#039;d give us those same rights.  But if the agents were pointing guns at the crowd, then that was wrong.  Pointing a firearm at somebody is a violation of gun safety rules.  It isn&#039;t allowed at gun ranges.  And if you do it out on the streets your gonna get your ass thrown in jail.

Those photos are two blurry to make out what is going on, in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in a suburb of DC and get to witness the secret service in action all the time.  In fact, I once accidently road my bike through a secure zone and ended up cycling very close to President Clinton&#8217;s motorcade&#8230; kinda funny in retrospect.  But I&#8217;ve seen the black SUVs driving around plenty of times, and I&#8217;ve been behind them in traffic to witness the agent looking straight back at me. And I&#8217;ve never seen them point a firearm out of the window.</p>
<p>I have no problem with the president being protected with heavy firepower.  I do wish he&#8217;d give us those same rights.  But if the agents were pointing guns at the crowd, then that was wrong.  Pointing a firearm at somebody is a violation of gun safety rules.  It isn&#8217;t allowed at gun ranges.  And if you do it out on the streets your gonna get your ass thrown in jail.</p>
<p>Those photos are two blurry to make out what is going on, in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Groom</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/03/protecting-the-president/#comment-47027</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Groom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too want Obama protected by as much firepower as possible. God forbid we&#039;d have President Biden. I&#039;m also all for letting Obama fail on his own, which he&#039;s doing well ahead of schedule. At this rate, he&#039;ll be impeached before his third year in office. If he were assassinated, he&#039;d just become another martyr for the Socialist agenda and his incompetence will be forgotten.

JFK (who was a damn sight better than BHO) was a terribly incompetent president when it came to foreign relations and put the whole country at risk by believing that we could negotiate peace with Khrushchev and the Soviets, but because he was shot by a Commie, suddenly he was the greatest POTUS of all time.Totally unqualified praise is lavished on Kennedy and his progeny based solely on the fact that he was assassinated. And let&#039;s not even talk about all the idiotic left-wing conspiracy theories that have cropped up around it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too want Obama protected by as much firepower as possible. God forbid we&#8217;d have President Biden. I&#8217;m also all for letting Obama fail on his own, which he&#8217;s doing well ahead of schedule. At this rate, he&#8217;ll be impeached before his third year in office. If he were assassinated, he&#8217;d just become another martyr for the Socialist agenda and his incompetence will be forgotten.</p>
<p>JFK (who was a damn sight better than BHO) was a terribly incompetent president when it came to foreign relations and put the whole country at risk by believing that we could negotiate peace with Khrushchev and the Soviets, but because he was shot by a Commie, suddenly he was the greatest POTUS of all time.Totally unqualified praise is lavished on Kennedy and his progeny based solely on the fact that he was assassinated. And let&#8217;s not even talk about all the idiotic left-wing conspiracy theories that have cropped up around it.</p>
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