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	<title>Comments on: Not Sure About This Idea</title>
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		<title>By: N.U.G.U.N.</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/08/03/not-sure-about-this-idea/#comment-47190</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think I&#039;d accept a two-tiered system.  Essentially, where there was a standard requirement for reciprocity. 

In other words, a &quot;reciprocity license&quot;.  This would also allow states that don&#039;t allow carry without permits to do so. And then you&#039;d only have to seek the reciprocity ranked permit if you wanted/needed such.

This way, Pennsylvania would not have to change their permitting system. But to receive a license with a reciprocity &quot;stamp&quot;, you might need a basic minimum of safety course, background check, etc.

I&#039;d accept that to be able to carry from PA to CT or down into MD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think I&#8217;d accept a two-tiered system.  Essentially, where there was a standard requirement for reciprocity. </p>
<p>In other words, a &#8220;reciprocity license&#8221;.  This would also allow states that don&#8217;t allow carry without permits to do so. And then you&#8217;d only have to seek the reciprocity ranked permit if you wanted/needed such.</p>
<p>This way, Pennsylvania would not have to change their permitting system. But to receive a license with a reciprocity &#8220;stamp&#8221;, you might need a basic minimum of safety course, background check, etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d accept that to be able to carry from PA to CT or down into MD.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris from AK</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris from AK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 04:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin,

Your point is exactly what I was going to say -- this seems like a step towards AK Carry.  In AK we can carry (open or concealed) without permits, but they offer a permit with background check, fingerprints, training class, etc for reciprocity purposes.  It seems like a good idea given the way our system works now.

Of course, we&#039;ve got a border with Canada, and there&#039;s no way we&#039;ll ever get reciprocity there...  Even my bear mace is questionable across the border, much less a handgun!

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,</p>
<p>Your point is exactly what I was going to say &#8212; this seems like a step towards AK Carry.  In AK we can carry (open or concealed) without permits, but they offer a permit with background check, fingerprints, training class, etc for reciprocity purposes.  It seems like a good idea given the way our system works now.</p>
<p>Of course, we&#8217;ve got a border with Canada, and there&#8217;s no way we&#8217;ll ever get reciprocity there&#8230;  Even my bear mace is questionable across the border, much less a handgun!</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Buist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Buist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea too.  Personally I think Alaska has the right idea with their two-tiered system, but something requiring an actual permit for the in-state carry is a compromise I&#039;d make if it got more people carrying that didn&#039;t want to devote time to the whole classroom experience the other states want.

In the end I think this is the only way we&#039;re going to get national CCW.  Graduated licenses.  With driver&#039;s licenses we have basic operator&#039;s licenses, chauffeur&#039;s licences, then CDLs, and within CDLs we have various endorsements.  I believe we&#039;ll end up with something similar in the CCW world with a simple in-state license, mult-state (what the current ones usually do) and then a national one only void in a couple of states.

Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea too.  Personally I think Alaska has the right idea with their two-tiered system, but something requiring an actual permit for the in-state carry is a compromise I&#8217;d make if it got more people carrying that didn&#8217;t want to devote time to the whole classroom experience the other states want.</p>
<p>In the end I think this is the only way we&#8217;re going to get national CCW.  Graduated licenses.  With driver&#8217;s licenses we have basic operator&#8217;s licenses, chauffeur&#8217;s licences, then CDLs, and within CDLs we have various endorsements.  I believe we&#8217;ll end up with something similar in the CCW world with a simple in-state license, mult-state (what the current ones usually do) and then a national one only void in a couple of states.</p>
<p>Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: ExurbanKevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>ExurbanKevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arizona is looking to do something similar, with qualified applicants (i.e. competitive shooters, grads of NRA classes, etc) skipping the &quot;Intro to Handguns&quot; part and having a shorter course that focuses just on the law and shoot/no-shoot decisions. 

http://www.exurbanleague.com/2009/01/30/legal-and-wise.aspx

I think it&#039;s a good idea. I had been shooting competitively for 3 months and had taken the NRA Pistol course prior to my CCW class, so most of the shooting stuff was just review for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arizona is looking to do something similar, with qualified applicants (i.e. competitive shooters, grads of NRA classes, etc) skipping the &#8220;Intro to Handguns&#8221; part and having a shorter course that focuses just on the law and shoot/no-shoot decisions. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.exurbanleague.com/2009/01/30/legal-and-wise.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.exurbanleague.com/2009/01/30/legal-and-wise.aspx</a></p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a good idea. I had been shooting competitively for 3 months and had taken the NRA Pistol course prior to my CCW class, so most of the shooting stuff was just review for me.</p>
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