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	<title>Comments on: An Interview with Matt at Kel-Tec on the RFB</title>
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		<title>By: ks3</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/28/an-interview-with-matt-at-kel-tec-on-the-rfb/#comment-45254</link>
		<dc:creator>ks3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does anyone know if the sporter (24&quot; barrel) model is still being released as planned? because it has been removed on the official kel-tec website which is kind of a downer as thats is the ideal barrel length for me. 32 is a bit much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone know if the sporter (24&#8243; barrel) model is still being released as planned? because it has been removed on the official kel-tec website which is kind of a downer as thats is the ideal barrel length for me. 32 is a bit much</p>
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		<title>By: Matt from Kel-Tec R&#38;D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt from Kel-Tec R&#38;D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With apologies to Grand, I have been instructed that I am not to post anything further. 

It&#039;s been fun, I hope you can find your answers elsewhere. Good luck, and thank you  for your support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With apologies to Grand, I have been instructed that I am not to post anything further. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s been fun, I hope you can find your answers elsewhere. Good luck, and thank you  for your support.</p>
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		<title>By: Grand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Matt from Kel Tec R&amp;D

A few questions.  First what is the twist ratio of the barrel? And/or prefered grain weight of ammunition?  I saw you fired standard NATO ball, but is there a grain weight that is prefered/recommended?

Recommended BUIS?

Is there an available slip on stock pad for futher recoil reduction or is one in the works from Kel Tec?  

Since this will be the &quot;legacy&quot; rifle from Kel Tec, are there going to be further options and additions in the future offered on this system other than those you have mentioned already?  I.E more &quot;goodies&quot; such as additional rail interface systems for the carbine model, optional muzzle brakes, etc?

Thanks for the info already.  Interesting enough rifle that I might end up purchasing one in due time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Matt from Kel Tec R&amp;D</p>
<p>A few questions.  First what is the twist ratio of the barrel? And/or prefered grain weight of ammunition?  I saw you fired standard NATO ball, but is there a grain weight that is prefered/recommended?</p>
<p>Recommended BUIS?</p>
<p>Is there an available slip on stock pad for futher recoil reduction or is one in the works from Kel Tec?  </p>
<p>Since this will be the &#8220;legacy&#8221; rifle from Kel Tec, are there going to be further options and additions in the future offered on this system other than those you have mentioned already?  I.E more &#8220;goodies&#8221; such as additional rail interface systems for the carbine model, optional muzzle brakes, etc?</p>
<p>Thanks for the info already.  Interesting enough rifle that I might end up purchasing one in due time.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Harder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Harder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Oleg

Yeah, I saw your work over at http://olegvolk.livejournal.com/609459.html this morning. Thanks for posting them.</description>
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<p>Yeah, I saw your work over at <a href="http://olegvolk.livejournal.com/609459.html" rel="nofollow">http://olegvolk.livejournal.com/609459.html</a> this morning. Thanks for posting them.</p>
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		<title>By: Oleg Volk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oleg Volk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been taking photos of an RFB for the past week or so. The quality of machining is superior to most AR15s I&#039;ve seen. The gun comes apart for cleaning in seconds (pull four captive pins and it unfolds like a book). It has a really nice trigger and balance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been taking photos of an RFB for the past week or so. The quality of machining is superior to most AR15s I&#8217;ve seen. The gun comes apart for cleaning in seconds (pull four captive pins and it unfolds like a book). It has a really nice trigger and balance.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt although I am not &quot;trailer park trash&quot; as jshoneh would believe I am extremely excited about the RFB.  I am anxiously awaiting the phone call to say mine is in.  I can appreciate the vision and thought that went into it&#039;s development and I hope it lives up to the hype.  It fills a void in the market and will sell like hotcakes.  Pay no attention to the naysayers unless they have actually handled one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt although I am not &#8220;trailer park trash&#8221; as jshoneh would believe I am extremely excited about the RFB.  I am anxiously awaiting the phone call to say mine is in.  I can appreciate the vision and thought that went into it&#8217;s development and I hope it lives up to the hype.  It fills a void in the market and will sell like hotcakes.  Pay no attention to the naysayers unless they have actually handled one.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superior design and superior debate skills, a formidable combination.

I&#039;m hitting my forehead for not extrapolating out the &quot;CFB&quot; designation before now.  I&#039;ll probably buy one when they come out, but the RFB now and forever more has my attention.  I&#039;ve had the funds set aside for the better part of a year now, and I just wish one of the distributors would smile upon me and finally ship me one already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superior design and superior debate skills, a formidable combination.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hitting my forehead for not extrapolating out the &#8220;CFB&#8221; designation before now.  I&#8217;ll probably buy one when they come out, but the RFB now and forever more has my attention.  I&#8217;ve had the funds set aside for the better part of a year now, and I just wish one of the distributors would smile upon me and finally ship me one already.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt from Kel-Tec R&#38;D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt from Kel-Tec R&#38;D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 20:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it should be &quot;case&quot; not casing. It&#039;s not a sausage..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it should be &#8220;case&#8221; not casing. It&#8217;s not a sausage..</p>
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		<title>By: Matt from Kel-Tec R&#38;D</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/28/an-interview-with-matt-at-kel-tec-on-the-rfb/#comment-44116</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt from Kel-Tec R&#38;D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That info is all very interesting, Burt. I find it interesting that in the last few years the most fascinating stuff has started to be posted in web forums instead of on devoted websites, as they were a few years ago. This seems to allow for instant feed back and peer review.

Unfortunately, while the 7.62 may work as a Close Quarters/ Home Defense cartridge, it&#039;s still a bit much IMHO. I wouldn&#039;t mock anyone&#039;s use of a 7.62 NATO with specialized ammunition in this role, but it&#039;s not something I would do myself. I&#039;ve always been more of a Shotgun man myself and there&#039;s little arguing about the risk of over penetration with 00 buckshot, but the use of smaller pellets, like No. 4 would serve to greatly reduce this risk.

A 5.56 RFB, called the CFB is in the works. I was opposed to the whole idea, since there are already a host of 5.56 Bullpups and the CFB will directly compete with the RFBs market. It will take a few years though, so don&#039;t expect to see one anytime soon.

@ Robert Harder:

The previous casing does get in the way. They stack up in the ejection chute and push each other out of the front, unless the operator tilts the weapon forward, and dumps them out. There are wings at the back of the chute that keep the shells from sliding backwards and falling into the action. The fired case is tilted upwards during rear ward travel and held firmly by the extractors. It is then pushed into the ejection chute where it passes the wings which pinch the casing as it is pushed through. Any case or series of cases in the chute will not create enough resistance to cause a stoppage. The part that uses the most energy is when the carrier has to force the extractors down off of the rim when the case is in the chute. A nose on the carrier then pushes the empty case the rest of the way through the wings on the chute, ensuring that there is no way the case can fall backwards. Inertia then causes the cases to remain stationary as the rifle moves backwards, giving the empties a kind of forward momentum. This will happen no matter what the rifle&#039;s attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That info is all very interesting, Burt. I find it interesting that in the last few years the most fascinating stuff has started to be posted in web forums instead of on devoted websites, as they were a few years ago. This seems to allow for instant feed back and peer review.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, while the 7.62 may work as a Close Quarters/ Home Defense cartridge, it&#8217;s still a bit much IMHO. I wouldn&#8217;t mock anyone&#8217;s use of a 7.62 NATO with specialized ammunition in this role, but it&#8217;s not something I would do myself. I&#8217;ve always been more of a Shotgun man myself and there&#8217;s little arguing about the risk of over penetration with 00 buckshot, but the use of smaller pellets, like No. 4 would serve to greatly reduce this risk.</p>
<p>A 5.56 RFB, called the CFB is in the works. I was opposed to the whole idea, since there are already a host of 5.56 Bullpups and the CFB will directly compete with the RFBs market. It will take a few years though, so don&#8217;t expect to see one anytime soon.</p>
<p>@ Robert Harder:</p>
<p>The previous casing does get in the way. They stack up in the ejection chute and push each other out of the front, unless the operator tilts the weapon forward, and dumps them out. There are wings at the back of the chute that keep the shells from sliding backwards and falling into the action. The fired case is tilted upwards during rear ward travel and held firmly by the extractors. It is then pushed into the ejection chute where it passes the wings which pinch the casing as it is pushed through. Any case or series of cases in the chute will not create enough resistance to cause a stoppage. The part that uses the most energy is when the carrier has to force the extractors down off of the rim when the case is in the chute. A nose on the carrier then pushes the empty case the rest of the way through the wings on the chute, ensuring that there is no way the case can fall backwards. Inertia then causes the cases to remain stationary as the rifle moves backwards, giving the empties a kind of forward momentum. This will happen no matter what the rifle&#8217;s attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The box o truth is a good site, highly recommended. Old Painless (the man behind the site) is a great guy, and he knows his stuff. OP stated that his test results mirrored the results of the Gunsite test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The box o truth is a good site, highly recommended. Old Painless (the man behind the site) is a great guy, and he knows his stuff. OP stated that his test results mirrored the results of the Gunsite test.</p>
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