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	<description>The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ...</description>
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		<title>By: Gun Shy Tourist</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/19/back-home/#comment-43337</link>
		<dc:creator>Gun Shy Tourist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 02:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is, that the TSA doesn&#039;t want you competing with their &quot;rogue&quot; employees.

http://aroundotown.blogspot.com/2009/04/whos-going-through-your-luggage-and.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is, that the TSA doesn&#8217;t want you competing with their &#8220;rogue&#8221; employees.</p>
<p><a href="http://aroundotown.blogspot.com/2009/04/whos-going-through-your-luggage-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://aroundotown.blogspot.com/2009/04/whos-going-through-your-luggage-and.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/19/back-home/#comment-43318</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 19:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll tell you, I never would have thought I&#039;d ever forget about a loaded magazine tucked away in a bag, forgotten, until a TSA guy pulled it out at a checkpoint.  Never would have thought, until I did it.

You can bet I won&#039;t forget again, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll tell you, I never would have thought I&#8217;d ever forget about a loaded magazine tucked away in a bag, forgotten, until a TSA guy pulled it out at a checkpoint.  Never would have thought, until I did it.</p>
<p>You can bet I won&#8217;t forget again, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Boogliodemus</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/19/back-home/#comment-43316</link>
		<dc:creator>Boogliodemus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 18:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Spoken like someone who doesn’t handle guns on a regular basis.&quot;

Well, you&#039;re right about that. The days of being able to shoot out your back door or on any rural back road are long gone in NW Montana. Now it&#039;s the range or nothing. Unfortunately, I do have to fly a lot. The way the confessions of forgetfulness were going in the comments, I was half expecting someone to tell about the time that they forgot they had a grenade in their pocket, a rocket luncher in their shaving kit or something equally farfetched. Don&#039;t forget to turn your pockets inside out, shake your hair out and check behind your ears. Apparently, ya just never know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Spoken like someone who doesn’t handle guns on a regular basis.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, you&#8217;re right about that. The days of being able to shoot out your back door or on any rural back road are long gone in NW Montana. Now it&#8217;s the range or nothing. Unfortunately, I do have to fly a lot. The way the confessions of forgetfulness were going in the comments, I was half expecting someone to tell about the time that they forgot they had a grenade in their pocket, a rocket luncher in their shaving kit or something equally farfetched. Don&#8217;t forget to turn your pockets inside out, shake your hair out and check behind your ears. Apparently, ya just never know.</p>
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		<title>By: CA</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/19/back-home/#comment-43311</link>
		<dc:creator>CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 18:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The one thing I’ve learned from this post and the comments is that there are a lot of clueless blockheads out there. If you’re that scatterbrained, I wouldn’t want to be at the range with so many careless shooters. Thanks for the warnings.&quot;

Er what does forgetting to take a mag out of laptop bag have to do with range safety?

Shooting is part of our life.  Forgetting a mag is like forgetting a cell phone but we always know where the weapons are.

What it sounds like is that people like me shoot all the damned time.  So much so that we have shooting paraphernalia on our about or vehicles, home, person that sometimes forgetting can cause some unwelcome attention when compared to decades prior. 

When my Dad flew F-27s and DC-3s for West Coast Airlines the pilots had the option of being armed.  When he retired from NWA that was no longer the case.

Cory</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The one thing I’ve learned from this post and the comments is that there are a lot of clueless blockheads out there. If you’re that scatterbrained, I wouldn’t want to be at the range with so many careless shooters. Thanks for the warnings.&#8221;</p>
<p>Er what does forgetting to take a mag out of laptop bag have to do with range safety?</p>
<p>Shooting is part of our life.  Forgetting a mag is like forgetting a cell phone but we always know where the weapons are.</p>
<p>What it sounds like is that people like me shoot all the damned time.  So much so that we have shooting paraphernalia on our about or vehicles, home, person that sometimes forgetting can cause some unwelcome attention when compared to decades prior. </p>
<p>When my Dad flew F-27s and DC-3s for West Coast Airlines the pilots had the option of being armed.  When he retired from NWA that was no longer the case.</p>
<p>Cory</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/19/back-home/#comment-43303</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 16:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spoken like someone who doesn&#039;t handle guns on a regular basis.  When shooting is part of your life, you&#039;ll find ammunition in all kinds of places you wouldn&#039;t expect it to get into.  TSA has good reasons for prohibiting ammunition on planes, but they also have good reasons for being forgiving of people who quite simply just forgot.  Guns are legal, and their ownership constitutionally protected.  It would be one thing to forget the gun, but another thing to forget ammunition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spoken like someone who doesn&#8217;t handle guns on a regular basis.  When shooting is part of your life, you&#8217;ll find ammunition in all kinds of places you wouldn&#8217;t expect it to get into.  TSA has good reasons for prohibiting ammunition on planes, but they also have good reasons for being forgiving of people who quite simply just forgot.  Guns are legal, and their ownership constitutionally protected.  It would be one thing to forget the gun, but another thing to forget ammunition.</p>
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		<title>By: Boogliodemus</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/19/back-home/#comment-43302</link>
		<dc:creator>Boogliodemus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 16:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one thing I&#039;ve learned from this post and the comments is that there are a lot of clueless blockheads out there. If you&#039;re that scatterbrained, I wouldn&#039;t want to be at the range with so many careless shooters. Thanks for the warnings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing I&#8217;ve learned from this post and the comments is that there are a lot of clueless blockheads out there. If you&#8217;re that scatterbrained, I wouldn&#8217;t want to be at the range with so many careless shooters. Thanks for the warnings.</p>
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		<title>By: CA</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/19/back-home/#comment-43251</link>
		<dc:creator>CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 16:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No there does not have to be intent.  The statutes are written such that a violation does not require intent.

Same thing happened to me at Dulles in which I had some work done to my condo and put the .45, mags and a knife in my bag.  I remembered to take out the gun but forget about one mag and the knife.

Same thing ... &quot;no big deal but we have to write you a ticket for the knife and keep it&quot;....

$1,500 later in lawyer fees the TSA lady that was cool at the airport was an absolute demonic bitch in the courtroom saying that I was responsible for 9/11, the plague of the 1900s and the killing of numerous baby seals.  40 hours of community service later......  

Yay!

I&#039;m also a current pilot with a background clearance to fly within the 5 mile radius of DC&#039;s ring of stupidity known as the ADIZ.

Those little blue shirt TSA NAZIs are the spawn of hell.

They even made the head of TSA that wrote the regulations take off his shoes at Reagen National. He stated, &quot;I do not have to remove my shoes if the sole of the shoe is part of the shoe and not detachable (think Nike versus dress shoe).&quot;  TSA gimp replied, &quot;Yes you do.&quot;,  He replied, &quot;No I don&#039;t and I wrote the regulation.&quot;.  Hillarity ensued from that point...  hahaha hhahahaha.  Government at its finest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No there does not have to be intent.  The statutes are written such that a violation does not require intent.</p>
<p>Same thing happened to me at Dulles in which I had some work done to my condo and put the .45, mags and a knife in my bag.  I remembered to take out the gun but forget about one mag and the knife.</p>
<p>Same thing &#8230; &#8220;no big deal but we have to write you a ticket for the knife and keep it&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>$1,500 later in lawyer fees the TSA lady that was cool at the airport was an absolute demonic bitch in the courtroom saying that I was responsible for 9/11, the plague of the 1900s and the killing of numerous baby seals.  40 hours of community service later&#8230;&#8230;  </p>
<p>Yay!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also a current pilot with a background clearance to fly within the 5 mile radius of DC&#8217;s ring of stupidity known as the ADIZ.</p>
<p>Those little blue shirt TSA NAZIs are the spawn of hell.</p>
<p>They even made the head of TSA that wrote the regulations take off his shoes at Reagen National. He stated, &#8220;I do not have to remove my shoes if the sole of the shoe is part of the shoe and not detachable (think Nike versus dress shoe).&#8221;  TSA gimp replied, &#8220;Yes you do.&#8221;,  He replied, &#8220;No I don&#8217;t and I wrote the regulation.&#8221;.  Hillarity ensued from that point&#8230;  hahaha hhahahaha.  Government at its finest.</p>
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		<title>By: Be carefull &#171; Firearms &#38; Freedom</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/19/back-home/#comment-43219</link>
		<dc:creator>Be carefull &#171; Firearms &#38; Freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Be&#160;carefull  Sebastian had some trouble at the airport after forgetting a loaded magazine in a computer bag. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/19/back-home/#comment-43213</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I left from a formation in full gear at Fort Lewis to catch a plane and tossed my LBE into my carry on bag.  With a 6 inch long gerber knife attached...

That was in 1985, when they were not insane, but they got a bit excited.  But I was in BDUs IIRC so they just made me sign a roster and I had to mail the knife home.  No cops involved, but I did feel like an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left from a formation in full gear at Fort Lewis to catch a plane and tossed my LBE into my carry on bag.  With a 6 inch long gerber knife attached&#8230;</p>
<p>That was in 1985, when they were not insane, but they got a bit excited.  But I was in BDUs IIRC so they just made me sign a roster and I had to mail the knife home.  No cops involved, but I did feel like an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/19/back-home/#comment-43114</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 22:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TSA regulations include gun parts, under the theory that people cooperating could make a live weapon from the parts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TSA regulations include gun parts, under the theory that people cooperating could make a live weapon from the parts.</p>
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