Comments on: Cheerios an Untested New Drug http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/13/cheerios-an-untested-new-drug/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:54:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ian Argent http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/13/cheerios-an-untested-new-drug/#comment-42986 Ian Argent Sat, 16 May 2009 15:04:15 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=10336#comment-42986 Thanks for the reminder. I've known for a while that aspirin and tylenol would be unlikely to be approved under the current guidelines (IIRC, Paracetomol (generic tylenol there) is *not* an OTC drug in Britain because of the side effects). It's a shame the system is set up such that the career-safest route for drugs is to be slow to approve and rapid to de-approve. (see Vioxx) Thanks for the reminder. I’ve known for a while that aspirin and tylenol would be unlikely to be approved under the current guidelines (IIRC, Paracetomol (generic tylenol there) is *not* an OTC drug in Britain because of the side effects).

It’s a shame the system is set up such that the career-safest route for drugs is to be slow to approve and rapid to de-approve. (see Vioxx)

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/13/cheerios-an-untested-new-drug/#comment-42923 Sebastian Fri, 15 May 2009 16:38:48 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=10336#comment-42923 Generally Regarded as Safe. Lots of drugs, when the current FDA regime was implemented, were declared GRAS, like asprin and tylenol, which if they were to go through the process today wouldn't make it as drugs. Asprin causes severe gastrointestinal side effects, and tylenol can fry your liver at not much higher than the recommended dose. But they are GRAS, because they were regarded as safe before all this crap was implemented. Generally Regarded as Safe. Lots of drugs, when the current FDA regime was implemented, were declared GRAS, like asprin and tylenol, which if they were to go through the process today wouldn’t make it as drugs. Asprin causes severe gastrointestinal side effects, and tylenol can fry your liver at not much higher than the recommended dose. But they are GRAS, because they were regarded as safe before all this crap was implemented.

]]> By: Ian Argent http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/13/cheerios-an-untested-new-drug/#comment-42918 Ian Argent Fri, 15 May 2009 13:56:08 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=10336#comment-42918 GRAS? Not familiar with the acronym in this context GRAS? Not familiar with the acronym in this context

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/13/cheerios-an-untested-new-drug/#comment-42907 Sebastian Fri, 15 May 2009 06:22:50 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=10336#comment-42907 Water is GRAS. I'm not kidding either. Water is GRAS. I’m not kidding either.

]]> By: comatus http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/13/cheerios-an-untested-new-drug/#comment-42906 comatus Fri, 15 May 2009 06:10:44 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=10336#comment-42906 Sennin, are you referring to dihydrogen monoxide? For God's sake, don't snort that stuff. Sennin, are you referring to dihydrogen monoxide?
For God’s sake, don’t snort that stuff.

]]> By: Sennin http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/13/cheerios-an-untested-new-drug/#comment-42904 Sennin Fri, 15 May 2009 05:48:57 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=10336#comment-42904 "... promoted for conditions that cause it to be a drug because the product is intended for use in the prevention, mitigation, and treatment of disease." Does that mean that the water I drink, which is intended to prevent, mitigate, and treat dehydration, now falls under FDA control as a drug? Do I need a prescription? “… promoted for conditions that cause it to be a drug because the product is intended for use in the prevention, mitigation, and treatment of disease.”

Does that mean that the water I drink, which is intended to prevent, mitigate, and treat dehydration, now falls under FDA control as a drug? Do I need a prescription?

]]> By: Ian Argent http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/13/cheerios-an-untested-new-drug/#comment-42858 Ian Argent Thu, 14 May 2009 02:17:48 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=10336#comment-42858 +1 to aaron +1 to aaron

]]> By: BobG http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/13/cheerios-an-untested-new-drug/#comment-42852 BobG Wed, 13 May 2009 21:33:19 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=10336#comment-42852 Sounds like a bunch of bureaucrats at the FDA don't have enough work to keep busy. Sounds like a bunch of bureaucrats at the FDA don’t have enough work to keep busy.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/13/cheerios-an-untested-new-drug/#comment-42846 Aaron Wed, 13 May 2009 19:12:04 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=10336#comment-42846 I can see the spam now: "GENERIC CHEERIOS CHEAP ONLINE NO PRESCRIPTION!" I can see the spam now: “GENERIC CHEERIOS CHEAP ONLINE NO PRESCRIPTION!”

]]> By: Ian Argent http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/05/13/cheerios-an-untested-new-drug/#comment-42845 Ian Argent Wed, 13 May 2009 18:59:51 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=10336#comment-42845 Wonder if General Mills is going to have to comply with 21 CFR 11? (My personal exposure to which was a letter from our customer that said the ticketing system we were using was not covered by 21 CFR 11 so we could keep being sloppy; but my wife has done work for Merck that was, and a friend of mine is in Pharma robotics). Wonder if General Mills is going to have to comply with 21 CFR 11? (My personal exposure to which was a letter from our customer that said the ticketing system we were using was not covered by 21 CFR 11 so we could keep being sloppy; but my wife has done work for Merck that was, and a friend of mine is in Pharma robotics).

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