Comments on: More Details on the Rescue http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/04/12/more-details-on-the-rescue/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:54:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: geekWithA.45 http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/04/12/more-details-on-the-rescue/#comment-41331 geekWithA.45 Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:30:47 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=9611#comment-41331 Some background material: One of my contacts, whose bona fides are vouched for by a man I know to be a former naval officer, was a SEAL. This contact tells me that SEAL snipers can *guarantee* a hit out to 200 yards, whether they're on a ship, zodiac, helo, treading water, or even on dry, nonmoving land. I, on the other hand, can pretty much guarantee ignominiously drowning while treading water with a heavy rifle and combat load. Some background material: One of my contacts, whose bona fides are vouched for by a man I know to be a former naval officer, was a SEAL.

This contact tells me that SEAL snipers can *guarantee* a hit out to 200 yards, whether they’re on a ship, zodiac, helo, treading water, or even on dry, nonmoving land.

I, on the other hand, can pretty much guarantee ignominiously drowning while treading water with a heavy rifle and combat load.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/04/12/more-details-on-the-rescue/#comment-41292 Patrick Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:03:10 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=9611#comment-41292 CNN has a nice video of how the rescue went down- shots were from 75 feet away (roughly 25 meters). They also interview Vice Adm. William Gortney, who recommends that shipping companies hire "armed security detachments." Interesting to see if that idea will gain traction. Linky: (Vice Adm. Gortney's comments about armed security is in the last half of the video) http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/04/13/somalia.rescue.breakdown/index.html#cnnSTCVideo CNN has a nice video of how the rescue went down- shots were from 75 feet away (roughly 25 meters). They also interview Vice Adm. William Gortney, who recommends that shipping companies hire “armed security detachments.” Interesting to see if that idea will gain traction.

Linky: (Vice Adm. Gortney’s comments about armed security is in the last half of the video)

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/04/13/somalia.rescue.breakdown/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

]]> By: jdun1911 http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/04/12/more-details-on-the-rescue/#comment-41290 jdun1911 Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:42:57 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=9611#comment-41290 Obama didn't give the order to shoot. As Uncle Jimbo stated on Blackfive. Obama didn’t give the order to shoot. As Uncle Jimbo stated on Blackfive.

]]> By: Target Rich Environment » Blog Archive » SEALs Save The Day http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/04/12/more-details-on-the-rescue/#comment-41280 Target Rich Environment » Blog Archive » SEALs Save The Day Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:26:05 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=9611#comment-41280 [...] was noted by others, notably Sebastian at Snowflakes in Hell (link), even at the range of 25-30 meters, with the separate movements of the Bainbridge and the [...] [...] was noted by others, notably Sebastian at Snowflakes in Hell (link), even at the range of 25-30 meters, with the separate movements of the Bainbridge and the [...]

]]> By: PaleRider55 http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/04/12/more-details-on-the-rescue/#comment-41260 PaleRider55 Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:47:04 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=9611#comment-41260 http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/04/how-the-rescue-happened.html http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/04/how-the-rescue-happened.html

]]> By: Robert http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/04/12/more-details-on-the-rescue/#comment-41259 Robert Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:42:15 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=9611#comment-41259 Several sites are saying 25-30 yards. The destroyer was towing the lifeboat by the time they took the shots. I expect they had reeled it in little by little. At that range, they ought to be able to shoot the parrots off their shoulders. With headshots. Wonder what tattoo seals get for shooting a pirate? Several sites are saying 25-30 yards. The destroyer was towing the lifeboat by the time they took the shots. I expect they had reeled it in little by little. At that range, they ought to be able to shoot the parrots off their shoulders. With headshots.
Wonder what tattoo seals get for shooting a pirate?

]]> By: Sniping Pirates | The Firearm Blog http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/04/12/more-details-on-the-rescue/#comment-41255 Sniping Pirates | The Firearm Blog Mon, 13 Apr 2009 07:59:33 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=9611#comment-41255 [...] Tip: Snow Flakes in Hell Related PostsMarine scout snipers providing anti-pirate protectioniPod Touch mounted on M110 Sniper [...] [...] Tip: Snow Flakes in Hell Related PostsMarine scout snipers providing anti-pirate protectioniPod Touch mounted on M110 Sniper [...]

]]> By: countertop http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/04/12/more-details-on-the-rescue/#comment-41250 countertop Mon, 13 Apr 2009 03:57:22 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=9611#comment-41250 OrangeNY Thats what they've been talking about on the news, but I'm not sure if I buy it. These guys hijack boats for the quick ransom and payment. If they kill a crew, they stand no chance of getting a ransom (though in fairness to them, if they kill some crew members, perhaps they can force a quicker ransom). But still, it raises the stakes too much for them and I suspect they want to avoid that and simply get their money quick.. OrangeNY

Thats what they’ve been talking about on the news, but I’m not sure if I buy it. These guys hijack boats for the quick ransom and payment. If they kill a crew, they stand no chance of getting a ransom (though in fairness to them, if they kill some crew members, perhaps they can force a quicker ransom).

But still, it raises the stakes too much for them and I suspect they want to avoid that and simply get their money quick..

]]> By: countertop http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/04/12/more-details-on-the-rescue/#comment-41249 countertop Mon, 13 Apr 2009 03:54:56 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=9611#comment-41249 According to the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/12/AR2009041202645.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow">Washington Post</a> the lifeboat was no more than 75 or 80 feet away. According to the Washington Post the lifeboat was no more than 75 or 80 feet away.

]]> By: OrangeNeckInNY http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/04/12/more-details-on-the-rescue/#comment-41248 OrangeNeckInNY Mon, 13 Apr 2009 03:49:36 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=9611#comment-41248 "I’m going to bet future pirates are going to avoid American flagged vessels from this point forward." Uhmm...no. They've pretty much declared war on American ships after this incident. Read it here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy "Abdullahi Lami, one of the pirates holding the Greek ship anchored in the Somali town of Gaan, said: "Every country will be treated the way it treats us. In the future, America will be the one mourning and crying," he told The Associated Press. "We will retaliate (for) the killings of our men." “I’m going to bet future pirates are going to avoid American flagged vessels from this point forward.”

Uhmm…no. They’ve pretty much declared war on American ships after this incident.

Read it here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy

“Abdullahi Lami, one of the pirates holding the Greek ship anchored in the Somali town of Gaan, said: “Every country will be treated the way it treats us. In the future, America will be the one mourning and crying,” he told The Associated Press. “We will retaliate (for) the killings of our men.”

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