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		<title>By: Are Weapons from the US going to Mexico? &#171; www.offmyfrontporch.com</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/03/19/testimony-on-violence-in-mexico/#comment-40529</link>
		<dc:creator>Are Weapons from the US going to Mexico? &#171; www.offmyfrontporch.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Testimony on Violence in Mexico [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Confusion Over Mexican Drug Cartel Armament &#171; ACGR&#8217;s &#8220;News with Attitude&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/03/19/testimony-on-violence-in-mexico/#comment-40312</link>
		<dc:creator>The Confusion Over Mexican Drug Cartel Armament &#171; ACGR&#8217;s &#8220;News with Attitude&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] “Law Enforcement Responses to Mexican Drug Cartels”: Official Hearing Notice / Witness List [...]</description>
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		<title>By: EckerNet.Com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; We Are NOT Arming Mexican Gangs</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/03/19/testimony-on-violence-in-mexico/#comment-40287</link>
		<dc:creator>EckerNet.Com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; We Are NOT Arming Mexican Gangs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] none of this should be suprising to our elected leaders.  Recently the Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing on this very issue.  And basically the end result is that nobody on the ground believes these weapons are coming from [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] none of this should be suprising to our elected leaders.  Recently the Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing on this very issue.  And basically the end result is that nobody on the ground believes these weapons are coming from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Arizona Rifleman &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On Mexico</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/03/19/testimony-on-violence-in-mexico/#comment-40215</link>
		<dc:creator>The Arizona Rifleman &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On Mexico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] While US gun laws are far less strict than Mexico, I seriously doubt that the US is responsible for most of the weapons being used by the drug cartels. While I won&#8217;t say that US-sourced weapons haven&#8217;t been found in Mexico (they clearly have), I&#8217;m saying that the bad guys are getting most of their weapons from other sources. The ATF seems to agree. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] While US gun laws are far less strict than Mexico, I seriously doubt that the US is responsible for most of the weapons being used by the drug cartels. While I won&#8217;t say that US-sourced weapons haven&#8217;t been found in Mexico (they clearly have), I&#8217;m saying that the bad guys are getting most of their weapons from other sources. The ATF seems to agree. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Shirley</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/03/19/testimony-on-violence-in-mexico/#comment-40192</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hal,  you&#039;re right. I was mostly agreeing with you.

That said, it&#039;s amazing the lengths that certain politicians in Mexico, the US and government types will go, in order to gin up a myth about guns coming from here when it&#039;s not true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hal,  you&#8217;re right. I was mostly agreeing with you.</p>
<p>That said, it&#8217;s amazing the lengths that certain politicians in Mexico, the US and government types will go, in order to gin up a myth about guns coming from here when it&#8217;s not true.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/03/19/testimony-on-violence-in-mexico/#comment-40177</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Shirley:

Perhaps you missed the following paragraph (Yes, I know I wrote a lot there, but it&#039;s all valid.) from my earlier comment above:

&lt;i&gt;Lastly, if somebody in the Mexican drug cartels also wants select-fire weaponry, then there’s the question of getting the necessary parts to convert these semi-automatic rifles to select-fire, and then the time to do these conversions, especially for AK-type rifles, which would require some precision machinist work on all of those receivers.&lt;/i&gt;

You are spot on about the point you have made otherwise though - &quot;sporter&quot; versions of military-type rifles, the same ones being widely sold across the USA, would have to be converted by a cadre of &quot;underground gunsmiths&quot; before they could become the select-fire weapons that we often have been seeing getting seized from the Mexican drug cartels. 

As I pointed out above, the logistics of doing all of this converting enough just to arm thousands upon thousands of Mexican drug cartel thugs would be simply far too overwhelming, as opposed to just dealing with an black market arms dealer, or the dictator of a rogue nation in Latin America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Shirley:</p>
<p>Perhaps you missed the following paragraph (Yes, I know I wrote a lot there, but it&#8217;s all valid.) from my earlier comment above:</p>
<p><i>Lastly, if somebody in the Mexican drug cartels also wants select-fire weaponry, then there’s the question of getting the necessary parts to convert these semi-automatic rifles to select-fire, and then the time to do these conversions, especially for AK-type rifles, which would require some precision machinist work on all of those receivers.</i></p>
<p>You are spot on about the point you have made otherwise though &#8211; &#8220;sporter&#8221; versions of military-type rifles, the same ones being widely sold across the USA, would have to be converted by a cadre of &#8220;underground gunsmiths&#8221; before they could become the select-fire weapons that we often have been seeing getting seized from the Mexican drug cartels. </p>
<p>As I pointed out above, the logistics of doing all of this converting enough just to arm thousands upon thousands of Mexican drug cartel thugs would be simply far too overwhelming, as opposed to just dealing with an black market arms dealer, or the dictator of a rogue nation in Latin America.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Shirley</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/03/19/testimony-on-violence-in-mexico/#comment-40165</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 05:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s another point that I don&#039;t see anybody raising. The guns being used in Mexico are selective fire. The guns sold up here are semiautomatic replicas of those selective fire military rifles.

What that means is that if guns were coming from here, they&#039;d have to be converted to selective fire in order to meet the specifications of the Narcotrafficantes.

Now ATF is starving for arrests. That&#039;s why they screwed with that poor guy Olafson. If those guns were being converted, how come we don&#039;t see any arrests of people running underground conversion operations. How come we&#039;re not seeing any arrests for illegal manufacture of a National Firearms Act firearm, and why aren&#039;t there any trafficking cases?

In short, there&#039;s a big fat hole in what the Feds call &quot;The Stream of Illegal Commerce&quot;. Those guns don&#039;t convert themselves. If the propaganda being pushed by those idiots Feinstein and Durban was true, there&#039;d be arrests of underground gunsmiths doing the conversions and there aren&#039;t any, because nobody is doing that. You can&#039;t create felony convictions out of thin air.

In short, any and every time somebody mentions crap about those guns coming from here, we need to call bullshit and ask the questions that I mentioned above. At some time, maybe the MSM will get embarassed at pushing a line that they can&#039;t even rationally believe in-- maybe,......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s another point that I don&#8217;t see anybody raising. The guns being used in Mexico are selective fire. The guns sold up here are semiautomatic replicas of those selective fire military rifles.</p>
<p>What that means is that if guns were coming from here, they&#8217;d have to be converted to selective fire in order to meet the specifications of the Narcotrafficantes.</p>
<p>Now ATF is starving for arrests. That&#8217;s why they screwed with that poor guy Olafson. If those guns were being converted, how come we don&#8217;t see any arrests of people running underground conversion operations. How come we&#8217;re not seeing any arrests for illegal manufacture of a National Firearms Act firearm, and why aren&#8217;t there any trafficking cases?</p>
<p>In short, there&#8217;s a big fat hole in what the Feds call &#8220;The Stream of Illegal Commerce&#8221;. Those guns don&#8217;t convert themselves. If the propaganda being pushed by those idiots Feinstein and Durban was true, there&#8217;d be arrests of underground gunsmiths doing the conversions and there aren&#8217;t any, because nobody is doing that. You can&#8217;t create felony convictions out of thin air.</p>
<p>In short, any and every time somebody mentions crap about those guns coming from here, we need to call bullshit and ask the questions that I mentioned above. At some time, maybe the MSM will get embarassed at pushing a line that they can&#8217;t even rationally believe in&#8211; maybe,&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: On That &#8216;Problem&#8217; of U.S. Guns Going To Mexico &#171;</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/03/19/testimony-on-violence-in-mexico/#comment-40144</link>
		<dc:creator>On That &#8216;Problem&#8217; of U.S. Guns Going To Mexico &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - - Senator Sessions says we have plenty of guns on this side of the border, and don’t have Mexico’s levels of violence.ATF responds with the fact that most FFLs are law abiding. Sessions says we need to build a fence. [link] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; - Senator Sessions says we have plenty of guns on this side of the border, and don’t have Mexico’s levels of violence.ATF responds with the fact that most FFLs are law abiding. Sessions says we need to build a fence. [link] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/03/19/testimony-on-violence-in-mexico/#comment-40139</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:

You&#039;re absolutely correct about it being a farce, and theater.  But if the Dems were taking gun control seriously, you would have heard different testimony.  What you hear is Durbin and Feinstein playing up the issue for their interest groups, and that&#039;s about it.  They know that whatever they want, they don&#039;t have the votes to pass anything, and Harry Reid hasn&#039;t exactly been friendly to gun control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely correct about it being a farce, and theater.  But if the Dems were taking gun control seriously, you would have heard different testimony.  What you hear is Durbin and Feinstein playing up the issue for their interest groups, and that&#8217;s about it.  They know that whatever they want, they don&#8217;t have the votes to pass anything, and Harry Reid hasn&#8217;t exactly been friendly to gun control.</p>
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		<title>By: John Steele</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/03/19/testimony-on-violence-in-mexico/#comment-40136</link>
		<dc:creator>John Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congressional hearings are Kabuki theatre. They are only designed to get camera time for the CongressCritters and to elicit testimony in support of positions that Senators and Representatives have already decided thought the special interest groups that control them. You could have every law enforcement organization in this nation testify that guns are a good thing and the congress will ignore them all. 

The hearings are the way in which Congress a) satisfies the special interest groups that control them and b) allows them to get their mugs on camera and show off and c) tell the rubes back home &#039;we had hearings and I laid into the bad people on your behalf.&#039;

Farse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congressional hearings are Kabuki theatre. They are only designed to get camera time for the CongressCritters and to elicit testimony in support of positions that Senators and Representatives have already decided thought the special interest groups that control them. You could have every law enforcement organization in this nation testify that guns are a good thing and the congress will ignore them all. </p>
<p>The hearings are the way in which Congress a) satisfies the special interest groups that control them and b) allows them to get their mugs on camera and show off and c) tell the rubes back home &#8216;we had hearings and I laid into the bad people on your behalf.&#8217;</p>
<p>Farse.</p>
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