Comments on: Second Amendment Alive and Well in California http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/01/12/second-amendment-alive-and-well-in-california/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:52:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: workinwifdakids http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/01/12/second-amendment-alive-and-well-in-california/#comment-36618 workinwifdakids Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:59:54 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7660#comment-36618 That's right. California's draconian gun laws are ridiculous and anti-Constitutional, but the fine folks at CalGuns and the CalGuns Foundation have the State of California and CA's DoJ running scared. Check them out at www.calguns.net! That’s right. California’s draconian gun laws are ridiculous and anti-Constitutional, but the fine folks at CalGuns and the CalGuns Foundation have the State of California and CA’s DoJ running scared.

Check them out at http://www.calguns.net!

]]> By: Navy Vet from Jersey http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/01/12/second-amendment-alive-and-well-in-california/#comment-36616 Navy Vet from Jersey Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:21:17 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7660#comment-36616 Five years in prison for each HP round? That translates into about 25 to 50 year's worth of sentencing for a pistol loaded with HP ammunition, depending on the pistol. New Jersey's onerous and draconian laws on guns and ammunition are one thing, but its criminal justice system and how criminal cases get adjudicated are another. Plea bargains and deals seem to be the norm there. I have yet to ever read or hear about even the most hardened gang members in the Garden State receiving lengthy, decades-long prison sentences for just gun and/or HP ammunition possession charges. Five years in prison for each HP round? That translates into about 25 to 50 year’s worth of sentencing for a pistol loaded with HP ammunition, depending on the pistol.

New Jersey’s onerous and draconian laws on guns and ammunition are one thing, but its criminal justice system and how criminal cases get adjudicated are another. Plea bargains and deals seem to be the norm there. I have yet to ever read or hear about even the most hardened gang members in the Garden State receiving lengthy, decades-long prison sentences for just gun and/or HP ammunition possession charges.

]]> By: OrangeNeckInNY http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/01/12/second-amendment-alive-and-well-in-california/#comment-36615 OrangeNeckInNY Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:07:20 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7660#comment-36615 Because you're not allowed to carry in your vehicle while traveling through NJ. The gun has to be in a locked box, unloaded and separate from the ammo, which has to be in its own locked box as well. Also, NJ banned hollow point ammo, so don't get caught in NJ with the ammo not locked away in the said box. Each round of HP ammo they find on you or your vehicle, that's not locked away gets you 5 years in jail for EACH round. Because you’re not allowed to carry in your vehicle while traveling through NJ. The gun has to be in a locked box, unloaded and separate from the ammo, which has to be in its own locked box as well. Also, NJ banned hollow point ammo, so don’t get caught in NJ with the ammo not locked away in the said box. Each round of HP ammo they find on you or your vehicle, that’s not locked away gets you 5 years in jail for EACH round.

]]> By: Navy Vet from Jersey http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/01/12/second-amendment-alive-and-well-in-california/#comment-36614 Navy Vet from Jersey Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:03:03 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7660#comment-36614 If FOPA provides safe harbor provisions for interstate travel, then why do Pennsylvania people with pistol carry permits still get arrested in New Jersey sometimes? If FOPA provides safe harbor provisions for interstate travel, then why do Pennsylvania people with pistol carry permits still get arrested in New Jersey sometimes?

]]> By: Crotalus http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/01/12/second-amendment-alive-and-well-in-california/#comment-36613 Crotalus Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:46:07 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7660#comment-36613 I wish I could get on that jury. I'd nullify right quick! I wish I could get on that jury. I’d nullify right quick!

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/01/12/second-amendment-alive-and-well-in-california/#comment-36612 Sebastian Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:19:32 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7660#comment-36612 <i>I wonder what trumped-up charge they might try to stick someone with were they caught up in one of these fishing expeditions while in possession of a legal CCW.</i> They don't really have anything to work with. It's not illegal to bring a firearm into the non-sterile area of an airport in Pennsylvania. If you have a license, you're good. If they arrest you, or take your guns, they are acting under color of law, and can be sued. In California, they are charging this guy with violating California's transport laws for assault weapons, because he did not go directly to the range. New Jersey has a similar provision for all firearms being transported. People can and have been prosecuted for stopping off for a cup of coffee on the way back to the range. I wonder what trumped-up charge they might try to stick someone with were they caught up in one of these fishing expeditions while in possession of a legal CCW.

They don’t really have anything to work with. It’s not illegal to bring a firearm into the non-sterile area of an airport in Pennsylvania. If you have a license, you’re good. If they arrest you, or take your guns, they are acting under color of law, and can be sued.

In California, they are charging this guy with violating California’s transport laws for assault weapons, because he did not go directly to the range. New Jersey has a similar provision for all firearms being transported. People can and have been prosecuted for stopping off for a cup of coffee on the way back to the range.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/01/12/second-amendment-alive-and-well-in-california/#comment-36611 Sebastian Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:16:39 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7660#comment-36611 FOPA's safe harbor provisions only cover you while traveling interstate. They don't exempt you from state laws. If your starting location is California, you're governed by California law until you exit California. Once you cross state lines, you can claim the federal safe harbor exemption. FOPA’s safe harbor provisions only cover you while traveling interstate. They don’t exempt you from state laws. If your starting location is California, you’re governed by California law until you exit California. Once you cross state lines, you can claim the federal safe harbor exemption.

]]> By: Navy Vet from Jersey http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/01/12/second-amendment-alive-and-well-in-california/#comment-36609 Navy Vet from Jersey Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:09:50 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7660#comment-36609 Isn't there a federal law called the Firearm Owners Protection Act which covers situations like these? Isn’t there a federal law called the Firearm Owners Protection Act which covers situations like these?

]]> By: mobo215 http://www.pagunblog.com/2009/01/12/second-amendment-alive-and-well-in-california/#comment-36608 mobo215 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:45:19 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7660#comment-36608 I've wound up passing through the Philly airport several times while in possession of a handgun. I noticed that they reserve the right to pull over any car at any time for inspection along the road leading to the terminals. I wonder what trumped-up charge they might try to stick someone with were they caught up in one of these fishing expeditions while in possession of a legal CCW. ??? I’ve wound up passing through the Philly airport several times while in possession of a handgun. I noticed that they reserve the right to pull over any car at any time for inspection along the road leading to the terminals. I wonder what trumped-up charge they might try to stick someone with were they caught up in one of these fishing expeditions while in possession of a legal CCW.

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