Comments on: Redstate Demands NRA Grade on Holder Vote

By: Is this what passes for stirring rhetoric these days? « Darkblog

Is this what passes for stirring rhetoric these days? « Darkblog — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:21:58 +0000

[...] this what passes for stirring rhetoric these days? Via Sipsey Street, we have this masterfully obsequious proclamation: As a member, I expect the National Rifle Association to fight gun control in the 111th Congress. [...]

By: Mike Vanderboegh

Mike Vanderboegh — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:51:19 +0000

When the histories are written, “National Rifle Association” will be cross-referenced with “Judenrat.”

By: Linoge

Linoge — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:59:39 +0000

*headdesk* It would figure that a sarcastic impersonation would be lost on someone like Mike… And now we come full-circle, with the aggreived, martyred insurrectionists accusing the prags of not doing anything… oh, the irony. It burns.

Mr. Hardy pretty much hits the nail squarely on the head – we gunnies only have so much leverage, and how much leverage we apply now affects how much we will have in reserve in the future. Furthermore, while Holder’s stance on firearms might sway the minds of some of those in Congress (very few, I would wager, but that is just a guess), there are a plethora of other negative aspects of him that would be both problematic with him in the AG seat, and with his nomination… and all of those things are being oh-so-carefully swept under the rug. While I am more-or-less convinced that Holder is already a given, this has not stopped me from informing my duly-elected officials (and all of the Republicans on the nomination board, to boot) of my take on those negative aspects, and how they will hurt the country and its people’s rights. As I write this, though, I realize two things: to some people, that is still “nothing”, and I really do not have to defend myself or my actions. Methinks they dost protest too much. *shrugs*

By: Sebastian

Sebastian — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:17:05 +0000

I’m not playing this game Mike, because I don’t accept your premise that we’ve lost this before it’s even started. We survived Clinton, and we’ll survive this. The Brady’s have been openly demanding everything on that list for the last decade. Nothing about that has changed. I don’t intend to have any of my property stolen by government, and I’ll leave it at that.

By: Mike Vanderboegh

Mike Vanderboegh — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:54:32 +0000

Sebastion sez: “I failed this fall. My anti-gun Congressworm, Patrick Murphy, signed on to McCarthy’s HR1022, and so got a piss poor grade. I signed up volunteers, walked neighborhoods, made phone calls, and sent donations to his opponent. We had our asses handed to us on November 4th. Obama had coattails. In 2010, Pat Murphy might not be so lucky.”

By 2010 you will have lost every single legislative fight and the beast will be upon your neck. Then you will meekly roll over and give up what they demand and in return they won’t rip your throat out.

I beg you to recognize, Sebastian, that the ground has shifted under our feet. The old political verities no longer apply. The confiscationists sense this intuitively. Why do you think the Brady document is so open about their designs on your liberty and your property? They openly demand what they dared only whisper about a decade ago. And who will stop them? The Lairds of Fairfax? The Obama dominated courts? The GOP pols who wouldn’t risk not getting invited to liberal coctail parties even when they controlled the process?

The beast comes.

What will you do?

By: USMCBulldog

USMCBulldog — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:01:26 +0000

I still don’t know why so many gun owners seem to think that the gun-haters won’t try to take away THEIR guns. They seem to think these people will be satisfied once they ban EBR’s, “high capacity” magazines and .50 caliber firearms. Here’s a news flash for you – they will never stop until ALL guns, swords, knives, or anything that “could be a weapon” is banned from us mere peons. In the meantime, they will take ANYTHING they can get. Each victory makes them stronger and makes us weaker. Even if you don’t own an EBR, you are still a target and they WILL get to you sooner or later. We MUST not let them divide and conquer us one “faction” at a time – we are ALL in this together.

By: USMCBulldog

USMCBulldog — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:44:10 +0000

Contrary to what some people seem to think, the Democratic leadership has absolutely no interest in working with gun-owners – they don’t have to because they are now FIRMLY IN POWER and make no mistake – they will use it against ALL OF US! They do not need or care about our votes anymore because the 20 MILLION Amnesty voters will give them a voting block larger than the “gun lobby” has been able to muster – ever. They do not want to make friends with gun-owners, they are looking to make sure we are wiped out completely in the political arena and they now have the power to do it. Then, if we don’t comply – they will send in the goons.

By: Sebastian

Sebastian — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:26:24 +0000

Yes, because I spent all fall “worrying” and not acting. Just because I’m not burying ammunition in icing buckets doesn’t mean I’m sitting on my laurels. Once I have a gun control bill to oppose, I will do so. But my role, as I have chosen it, other than the meager contribution I make with the blog, is to help NRA elect pro-gun politicians and defeat anti-gun politicians. My job is to follow up on threats, and make them credible.

I failed this fall. My anti-gun Congressworm, Patrick Murphy, signed on to McCarthy’s HR1022, and so got a piss poor grade. I signed up volunteers, walked neighborhoods, made phone calls, and sent donations to his opponent. We had our asses handed to us on November 4th. Obama had coattails. In 2010, Pat Murphy might not be so lucky.

By: Mike Vanderboegh

Mike Vanderboegh — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:48:20 +0000

Sebastian sez: “I’m worried about what Holder will do as AG, but not as worried as I am about gun control bills.”

Our critique is that ALL you will EVER >DO< is “WORRY.” By the time you cease worrying and start acting, it will be too late.

By: CorbinKale

CorbinKale — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:46:42 +0000

Maybe it looks different up close, but from over here, it appears that the NRA strategy amounts to a bureaucratic effort to lose our freedom as slowly as possible. You don’t take ground by retreat and defense, and we have lost so much ground, already.

I am firmly in the 3% camp, but will welcome any prags to join the fight once the raids and confiscations commence. If you don’t wake up at that point, you wouldn’t be much good in a fight, anyway.

God bless America.