I think it’s not so much a bone, because they aren’t really interested in gun laws to enforce them against criminals. They are interested in getting more laws that they can enforce against us, on a large scale. Most of the federal gun laws, and state gun laws, are actually, at least in theory, centered around keeping criminals from getting guns. The last thing the gun control folks want is for those laws to reduce crime. That might undermine their ultimate goal.

I don’t really disagree with you. I would not object to repeal of the laws prohibiting felons from possessing guns because I don’t believe they accomplish anything. But I doubt even 20% of Americans agree with that. I’m open to changing their minds, but I’ll burn that bridge when I come to it.

Would it be right to deprive felons of their other constitutional rights? Limits on what they can say or write? No due process or trial by jury? Should we be allowed to quarter troops in their homes? No protection from unreasonable search and seizure, double jeopardy or self-incrimination?

The courts are mixed on it. But under conditions of parole, we allow a lot of these restrictions on liberties, actually. Would it be right to allow a sort of life time parole for certain offenders? Ideally, we would keep them in prison, but given the cost of that, I don’t think society is willing to pay for it. You’re going to have some form of violent people walking the streets.

The 2nd amendment is just as important as any of the others and all rights should be restored when confinement ends.

When determing sentence length and/or parole one of the most important factors to consider should be — “When will this person be rehabiliated enough to have their rights, including RKBA, restored to them.”

Think about that you’ll soon realize that crime would be greatly reduced. Liberals would be on the side of longer sentences if they had to face the fact that RKBA would be restored after confinement.

If they’re violent felons do you think a law is going to stop them from getting a gun or any other dangerous weapon?

“I suspect the prohibitions on felons having guns is probably here to stay. I doubt they actually work all that well, but they are among the laws the Supreme Court said were “presumptively constitutional””

OK then, we need to infiltrate newspapers and start calling the sentence what they are. Life. You have lost all chance at basic human rights forever. If they can’t be trusted to defend their own life strip them of the right to elect scum who seek to restrict my rights, taxes, and everything else that can be done by vote. Wire their jaws shut so they cannot speak, quarter troops in their homes.

Most of them have that effect, and I have no doubt that a lot of gun control folks do wish to end that culture. But we will probably have to live with some gun control, even if we are outstandingly successful at getting a lot of the current laws removed or changed. I suspect the prohibitions on felons having guns is probably here to stay. I doubt they actually work all that well, but they are among the laws the Supreme Court said were “presumptively constitutional”

These politicians in New Jersey are nothing but a bunch of disingenuous dopes. I’d love to round them all up and strap them down in order to force them to watch an hour or two of film footage from WWII, to show just how many hundreds of rounds of .50 caliber ammunition, being fired from mounted and belt-fed M2 Browning machine guns mind you, that it took to shoot down fighter planes back then. This was also back when most aircraft were propeller-driven and had a lower airspeed, too, unlike the jet aircraft of today.

Then I’d tell them to go out and find any evidence of any aircraft being shot down by “.50-caliber sniper rifles” anywhere in the world. They would have to fabricate said evidence of course, because such a thing has never actually happened.

Besides, since when is New Jersey anyone’s role model?

I’m calling “Bad Idea” on you here, Sebastian. Next thing they’ll be seeking to ban my 10/22 “rapid-fire-anti-aircraft artillery”! :)