Comments on: “Pretty Safe Bet” from Montana’s Senator http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/12/19/pretty-safe-bet-from-montanas-senator/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:18:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/12/19/pretty-safe-bet-from-montanas-senator/#comment-36761 Sebastian Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:39:04 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7249#comment-36761 I hope you're right about Congress being gun shy. I really do. In fact, I've bet on it, so to speak, by not taking part in the mad rush to buy guns. I did buy one, but it's used, and I didn't pay much of a premium for it over standard pricing. I hope you’re right about Congress being gun shy. I really do. In fact, I’ve bet on it, so to speak, by not taking part in the mad rush to buy guns. I did buy one, but it’s used, and I didn’t pay much of a premium for it over standard pricing.

]]> By: moorcat http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/12/19/pretty-safe-bet-from-montanas-senator/#comment-36759 moorcat Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:26:56 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7249#comment-36759 Once again, you misunderstand me... I am not saying that Obama isn;t going to try to push some kind of gun control. He has already stated that he wants to "close the gun show loophole". My point is that Obama can't do squat without the Congress-Critters support and most Congress-Critters are (excuse the pun) gun-shy of gun control issues right now. There is far too much Pro-gun sentiment running right now - in large part because of Heller. I don;t think you are "nuts".. In fact, for the most part, we are on the same side. I am simply a little pissed that the hysteria has put a number of types of guns out of reach (price-wise) for most people given the economic situation right now and ammo is getting rediculous. I do enjoy reading your blog and have found a lot of good information in it... Moorcat Montana Bullets and Blades Once again, you misunderstand me… I am not saying that Obama isn;t going to try to push some kind of gun control. He has already stated that he wants to “close the gun show loophole”. My point is that Obama can’t do squat without the Congress-Critters support and most Congress-Critters are (excuse the pun) gun-shy of gun control issues right now. There is far too much Pro-gun sentiment running right now – in large part because of Heller.

I don;t think you are “nuts”.. In fact, for the most part, we are on the same side. I am simply a little pissed that the hysteria has put a number of types of guns out of reach (price-wise) for most people given the economic situation right now and ammo is getting rediculous.

I do enjoy reading your blog and have found a lot of good information in it…

Moorcat
Montana Bullets and Blades

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/12/19/pretty-safe-bet-from-montanas-senator/#comment-36754 Sebastian Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:52:31 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7249#comment-36754 The Supremacy Clause is well established. Federal law trumps state laws and state constitutions. Doesn't matter what the topic is. I should apologize for being harsh. I've had a lot of folks come in here telling me I'm nuts for thinking Obama's going to push gun control, so I'm running out of patience for it. I shouldn't take it out on you. The Supremacy Clause is well established. Federal law trumps state laws and state constitutions. Doesn’t matter what the topic is.

I should apologize for being harsh. I’ve had a lot of folks come in here telling me I’m nuts for thinking Obama’s going to push gun control, so I’m running out of patience for it. I shouldn’t take it out on you.

]]> By: moorcat http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/12/19/pretty-safe-bet-from-montanas-senator/#comment-36753 moorcat Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:46:31 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7249#comment-36753 First, I didn;t say that you should be "OK" with gun registration legislation but I did say I don't see it standing a chance in hell of passing. Second, you yourself have said that a ban on assault weapons is outside the realm of possibility at this point, so the so-called "Supremacy Clause" is moot. Besides, the Supremacy Clause has yet to be tested in relation to Montana's Constitution as it relates to Guns. The two instances where it came up, the Feds caved on the issue (God I love living in Montana...) Not sure what your last comment means.. Are you saying that I am not paying attention to what is going on (totally incorrect, as a gunsmith, and knifemaker, I have to pay attention) or I am not paying attention to what your position is (again incorrect. While it is possible I misunderstand what your position is, I am obviously reading your blog - even if we do disagree on a few things) Moorcat First, I didn;t say that you should be “OK” with gun registration legislation but I did say I don’t see it standing a chance in hell of passing.

Second, you yourself have said that a ban on assault weapons is outside the realm of possibility at this point, so the so-called “Supremacy Clause” is moot. Besides, the Supremacy Clause has yet to be tested in relation to Montana’s Constitution as it relates to Guns. The two instances where it came up, the Feds caved on the issue (God I love living in Montana…)

Not sure what your last comment means.. Are you saying that I am not paying attention to what is going on (totally incorrect, as a gunsmith, and knifemaker, I have to pay attention) or I am not paying attention to what your position is (again incorrect. While it is possible I misunderstand what your position is, I am obviously reading your blog – even if we do disagree on a few things)

Moorcat

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/12/19/pretty-safe-bet-from-montanas-senator/#comment-36705 Sebastian Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:54:08 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7249#comment-36705 <i>If there are any Gun Control bills proposed (and I don;t see them having a chance in hell of passing…), they will be aimed at gun registration and the selling of guns at gun shows without any kind of registration.</i> And I should be OK with that why? <i>The fear running rampant in the gun community is unfounded and assinine - especially in Montana. Our state constitution protects us from it</i> Your state constitution doesn't protect you worth a spit from federal interference because of the Supremacy Clause. If Obama decides to ban politically incorrect semi-automatic guns, you'll have to suck it up with the rest of us. <i>You sound like a reasonable person… Please don;t buy into the irrational fear that others are trying to perpetrate on us….</i> You haven't been paying attention. If there are any Gun Control bills proposed (and I don;t see them having a chance in hell of passing…), they will be aimed at gun registration and the selling of guns at gun shows without any kind of registration.

And I should be OK with that why?

The fear running rampant in the gun community is unfounded and assinine – especially in Montana. Our state constitution protects us from it

Your state constitution doesn’t protect you worth a spit from federal interference because of the Supremacy Clause. If Obama decides to ban politically incorrect semi-automatic guns, you’ll have to suck it up with the rest of us.

You sound like a reasonable person… Please don;t buy into the irrational fear that others are trying to perpetrate on us….

You haven’t been paying attention.

]]> By: moorcat http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/12/19/pretty-safe-bet-from-montanas-senator/#comment-36704 moorcat Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:47:57 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7249#comment-36704 Read my lips... there will be no national Gun Bans coming out of Congress for some time to come. The Heller decision has pretty much put a nix to that. If there are any Gun Control bills proposed (and I don;t see them having a chance in hell of passing...), they will be aimed at gun registration and the selling of guns at gun shows without any kind of registration. The fear running rampant in the gun community is unfounded and assinine - especially in Montana. Our state constitution protects us from it. That is why - while other states have seen a 37% increase in gun sales - Montana gun sales have remained fairly constant. You sound like a reasonable person... Please don;t buy into the irrational fear that others are trying to perpetrate on us.... Moorcat Montana Bullets and Blades Read my lips… there will be no national Gun Bans coming out of Congress for some time to come. The Heller decision has pretty much put a nix to that. If there are any Gun Control bills proposed (and I don;t see them having a chance in hell of passing…), they will be aimed at gun registration and the selling of guns at gun shows without any kind of registration.

The fear running rampant in the gun community is unfounded and assinine – especially in Montana. Our state constitution protects us from it. That is why – while other states have seen a 37% increase in gun sales – Montana gun sales have remained fairly constant.

You sound like a reasonable person… Please don;t buy into the irrational fear that others are trying to perpetrate on us….

Moorcat
Montana Bullets and Blades

]]> By: Chris http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/12/19/pretty-safe-bet-from-montanas-senator/#comment-35544 Chris Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:32:43 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7249#comment-35544 Unfortunately, Montanna is becoming a state run by and supported by fuzzy-headed liberals. The culture has dramatically changed these past 15 years - and my real estate broker friends point to one cause: Californians moving in and importing their uber-liberal views. Montana conservatives are fleeing west to Idaho and south to Utah. Unfortunately, Montanna is becoming a state run by and supported by fuzzy-headed liberals. The culture has dramatically changed these past 15 years – and my real estate broker friends point to one cause: Californians moving in and importing their uber-liberal views.

Montana conservatives are fleeing west to Idaho and south to Utah.

]]> By: Tom http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/12/19/pretty-safe-bet-from-montanas-senator/#comment-35540 Tom Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:19:45 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=7249#comment-35540 Ya know, there's all kinds of studies done on legislation, environmental, monetary, God knows what else. Can we get some rights friendly folks to tack on an amendment that forces government to do a study on ANY gun control bill showing how it would actually impact criminals BEFORE it can come up for a vote? It's not quite "bigger government" as the people are already in place and it could be a bit of a stall factor and a "see, the goggles they do nothing" to slap the antis and fence sitters in the face with. Ya know, there’s all kinds of studies done on legislation, environmental, monetary, God knows what else.

Can we get some rights friendly folks to tack on an amendment that forces government to do a study on ANY gun control bill showing how it would actually impact criminals BEFORE it can come up for a vote?

It’s not quite “bigger government” as the people are already in place and it could be a bit of a stall factor and a “see, the goggles they do nothing” to slap the antis and fence sitters in the face with.

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