Comments on: Thanks George! http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/05/thanks-george/ The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State ... Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:54:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Guav http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/05/thanks-george/#comment-32909 Guav Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:07:55 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=6341#comment-32909 Hadn't thought about it that way, Brad. Hadn’t thought about it that way, Brad.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/05/thanks-george/#comment-32907 Sebastian Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:48:43 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=6341#comment-32907 I think that's a reasonable point of view. But I also think Bush displayed little leadership when it came to disciplining Congress. I think that’s a reasonable point of view. But I also think Bush displayed little leadership when it came to disciplining Congress.

]]> By: Brad http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/05/thanks-george/#comment-32891 Brad Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:39:54 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=6341#comment-32891 Just to take a contrarian point of view here, one could argue that Bush held together a fracturing coalition of social and fiscal conservatives for 6 years. The GOP had been losing seats in the Senate and House since 1998. In 2002, the GOP picked up seats and held majorities until 2006, when an un-popular administration coupled with scandalous congressional leadership finally forced that coalition to come undone. Bush didn't undo the GOP. The GOP un-did itself and has been doing so since the Clinton impeachment. It's off to the wilderness for a few years for the GOP. I'd like them to start catering again to fiscal conservatives like myself, who are currently alienated by both parties. Just to take a contrarian point of view here, one could argue that Bush held together a fracturing coalition of social and fiscal conservatives for 6 years. The GOP had been losing seats in the Senate and House since 1998. In 2002, the GOP picked up seats and held majorities until 2006, when an un-popular administration coupled with scandalous congressional leadership finally forced that coalition to come undone. Bush didn’t undo the GOP. The GOP un-did itself and has been doing so since the Clinton impeachment.

It’s off to the wilderness for a few years for the GOP. I’d like them to start catering again to fiscal conservatives like myself, who are currently alienated by both parties.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/05/thanks-george/#comment-32824 Sebastian Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:30:24 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=6341#comment-32824 I don't think it's quite as simple as "We're all just a bunch of centrists." or "America is looking for a true conservative." But you're right that Americans aren't ideologues for the most part. I'm starting to think the problem is political parties in general aren't serving the purpose they have in the past. I don’t think it’s quite as simple as “We’re all just a bunch of centrists.” or “America is looking for a true conservative.” But you’re right that Americans aren’t ideologues for the most part. I’m starting to think the problem is political parties in general aren’t serving the purpose they have in the past.

]]> By: Guav http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/05/thanks-george/#comment-32822 Guav Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:04:00 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=6341#comment-32822 Wyatt, maybe you didn't notice, but the American people as a whole are not clamoring for whatever it is you call "true conservatism." America is not a nation of ideologues, it's a nation of centrists (with a bunch of wingnuts on one side and a bunch of moonbats on the other). Wyatt, maybe you didn’t notice, but the American people as a whole are not clamoring for whatever it is you call “true conservatism.”

America is not a nation of ideologues, it’s a nation of centrists (with a bunch of wingnuts on one side and a bunch of moonbats on the other).

]]> By: Wyatt Earp http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/05/thanks-george/#comment-32810 Wyatt Earp Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:19:36 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=6341#comment-32810 Bush hurt, but selecting a RINO like McCain didn't help, either. IMO, the best thing McCain did this season was pick Palin - a true conservative. Bush hurt, but selecting a RINO like McCain didn’t help, either. IMO, the best thing McCain did this season was pick Palin – a true conservative.

]]> By: rightwingprof http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/05/thanks-george/#comment-32807 rightwingprof Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:13:40 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=6341#comment-32807 Paleoconservatism is, thank God, dead as the dodo, and has been since Pearl Harbor. Where were you when Pat the Jew hater last ran for the primary? The closest thing to paleocons are the Blue Dog Democrats in Indiana -- oh, and Duncan Hunter. Anti-trade, pro-protectionist, pro-tariff. Sorry. I forgot the Idiot Tancredo. Paleoconservatism is, thank God, dead as the dodo, and has been since Pearl Harbor. Where were you when Pat the Jew hater last ran for the primary? The closest thing to paleocons are the Blue Dog Democrats in Indiana — oh, and Duncan Hunter. Anti-trade, pro-protectionist, pro-tariff.

Sorry. I forgot the Idiot Tancredo.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/05/thanks-george/#comment-32805 Sebastian Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:04:04 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=6341#comment-32805 Then you have to convince them of that, or build a winning coalition without them. Right now, one can't be built. Then you have to convince them of that, or build a winning coalition without them. Right now, one can’t be built.

]]> By: travis bickle http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/05/thanks-george/#comment-32804 travis bickle Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:58:09 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=6341#comment-32804 But principled paleoconservatives at the federal level will keep their noses out of state affairs, which would benefit social-religious conservatives more than the neocons ever have or will. The bible belt needs to understand this or get shoved aside to the wilderness. But principled paleoconservatives at the federal level will keep their noses out of state affairs, which would benefit social-religious conservatives more than the neocons ever have or will.

The bible belt needs to understand this or get shoved aside to the wilderness.

]]> By: Guav http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/05/thanks-george/#comment-32792 Guav Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:53:02 +0000 http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/?p=6341#comment-32792 You betcha Sebastian, I hated what she was and what she represented—a female George W. Bush. Thanks, but no thanks :) You betcha Sebastian, I hated what she was and what she represented—a female George W. Bush. Thanks, but no thanks :)

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