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		<title>By: TheGunGeek</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/03/reasoned-discourse-3/#comment-32752</link>
		<dc:creator>TheGunGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t that long ago that California cops really did go to people&#039;s doors and confiscate their guns. The state had declared certain types of guns to not belong to that nebulous and nefarious category of banned &quot;Assault Weapons&quot; and then changed their minds later and used the registration records to go round them up.

And that&#039;s during normal times. Let&#039;s never forget what happened during the Katrina aftermath. Door to door confiscation. Here in the USA.

It has happened in this country. Not on a nationwide scale (yet) or for all guns (yet), but rarely do confiscation or even bans come in one fell swoop. It was only 40 years ago that you could buy almost any gun mail order with no questions asked and not too long before that when you get full auto firearms and silencers the same way. Now it&#039;s more and more background checks (to include denial for unpaid parking tickets, income taxes, or child support), waiting periods, approved weapons lists, processing charges, training requirements, smaller capacity magazines, purchasing quantity/frequency limitations, scary looking gun bans, private sales bans, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t that long ago that California cops really did go to people&#8217;s doors and confiscate their guns. The state had declared certain types of guns to not belong to that nebulous and nefarious category of banned &#8220;Assault Weapons&#8221; and then changed their minds later and used the registration records to go round them up.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s during normal times. Let&#8217;s never forget what happened during the Katrina aftermath. Door to door confiscation. Here in the USA.</p>
<p>It has happened in this country. Not on a nationwide scale (yet) or for all guns (yet), but rarely do confiscation or even bans come in one fell swoop. It was only 40 years ago that you could buy almost any gun mail order with no questions asked and not too long before that when you get full auto firearms and silencers the same way. Now it&#8217;s more and more background checks (to include denial for unpaid parking tickets, income taxes, or child support), waiting periods, approved weapons lists, processing charges, training requirements, smaller capacity magazines, purchasing quantity/frequency limitations, scary looking gun bans, private sales bans, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Melancton Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/03/reasoned-discourse-3/#comment-32683</link>
		<dc:creator>Melancton Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a former resident of Humboldt Co.  Good folk up there.   We all wanted to split CA in half.  Funny thing, now in IL we&#039;d like to do the same...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a former resident of Humboldt Co.  Good folk up there.   We all wanted to split CA in half.  Funny thing, now in IL we&#8217;d like to do the same&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DirtCrashr</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/03/reasoned-discourse-3/#comment-32679</link>
		<dc:creator>DirtCrashr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d just say that the way they&#039;ve already locked-up and dis-included California in gridlocked gerrymander, the last two elections have not included the Electoral College.  
Want to see Balkinization, it&#039;s here already - from the uniformity of Liberal Coastal Elite Megalopolis to the feisty gun-toting mountain counties - try moving from the Bay Area up to Shasta County and see what happens.
So all you 49-staters enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d just say that the way they&#8217;ve already locked-up and dis-included California in gridlocked gerrymander, the last two elections have not included the Electoral College.<br />
Want to see Balkinization, it&#8217;s here already &#8211; from the uniformity of Liberal Coastal Elite Megalopolis to the feisty gun-toting mountain counties &#8211; try moving from the Bay Area up to Shasta County and see what happens.<br />
So all you 49-staters enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: B Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/03/reasoned-discourse-3/#comment-32663</link>
		<dc:creator>B Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never liked Texas myself. but if BHO&#039;s our next president, I may have to endure it. 
Hey, how&#039;s Alaska?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never liked Texas myself. but if BHO&#8217;s our next president, I may have to endure it.<br />
Hey, how&#8217;s Alaska?</p>
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		<title>By: the pistolero</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/03/reasoned-discourse-3/#comment-32655</link>
		<dc:creator>the pistolero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, it sure is. Many a time I&#039;ve thought it being the Republic of Texas again as opposed to one of the 50 United States wouldn&#039;t be a bad thing at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, it sure is. Many a time I&#8217;ve thought it being the Republic of Texas again as opposed to one of the 50 United States wouldn&#8217;t be a bad thing at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanchez aka "Jack of All Trades"</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/03/reasoned-discourse-3/#comment-32649</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanchez aka "Jack of All Trades"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think she is arguing along much more destructive lines in the sense of this country starting to come apart at the ideological seams and split along their geographic lines.&quot;

Isn&#039;t Texas pretty nice around this time of the year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think she is arguing along much more destructive lines in the sense of this country starting to come apart at the ideological seams and split along their geographic lines.&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t Texas pretty nice around this time of the year?</p>
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		<title>By: Melancton Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/03/reasoned-discourse-3/#comment-32641</link>
		<dc:creator>Melancton Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ack, if that happens I live in enemy territory!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ack, if that happens I live in enemy territory!</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/03/reasoned-discourse-3/#comment-32639</link>
		<dc:creator>Robb Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I wasn&#039;t despairing &lt;b&gt;enough&lt;/b&gt;!

Geez, woman, bring us all down will ya? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I wasn&#8217;t despairing <b>enough</b>!</p>
<p>Geez, woman, bring us all down will ya? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Tam</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/03/reasoned-discourse-3/#comment-32638</link>
		<dc:creator>Tam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Balkanization: It&#039;s the wave of the future. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Balkanization: It&#8217;s the wave of the future. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/11/03/reasoned-discourse-3/#comment-32636</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robb,

I don&#039;t think that is the point Tam is trying to make.  I suspect it is far more bleak along the lines of there won&#039;t be 50 states around to have an election with.  Hence no Electoral College.  Unless she is implying one of the &quot;mandates&quot; of the Democrats would be to implement direct democracy and eliminate the Electoral College entirely.  That would require a Constitutional Amendment and there is no way in hell that&#039;s going to pass with a supermajority since the very reason you mention (flyover country) would never go along with it.  

I think she is arguing along much more destructive lines in the sense of this country starting to come apart at the ideological seams and split along their geographic lines.

I hope she&#039;s wrong too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robb,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that is the point Tam is trying to make.  I suspect it is far more bleak along the lines of there won&#8217;t be 50 states around to have an election with.  Hence no Electoral College.  Unless she is implying one of the &#8220;mandates&#8221; of the Democrats would be to implement direct democracy and eliminate the Electoral College entirely.  That would require a Constitutional Amendment and there is no way in hell that&#8217;s going to pass with a supermajority since the very reason you mention (flyover country) would never go along with it.  </p>
<p>I think she is arguing along much more destructive lines in the sense of this country starting to come apart at the ideological seams and split along their geographic lines.</p>
<p>I hope she&#8217;s wrong too.</p>
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