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		<title>By: VariableFeedback</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/31/why-we-lose-2/#comment-32463</link>
		<dc:creator>VariableFeedback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bitter - Sorry if I misunderstood what you were saying.  I do understand that you two must be very busy at this point.  I wish that I could have made it to the rally today.

My suggestion for the site was really more for the next cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bitter &#8211; Sorry if I misunderstood what you were saying.  I do understand that you two must be very busy at this point.  I wish that I could have made it to the rally today.</p>
<p>My suggestion for the site was really more for the next cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Bitter</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/31/why-we-lose-2/#comment-32419</link>
		<dc:creator>Bitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 03:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sebastian is correct, I didn&#039;t mean that for individuals, I meant across the whole.  Sorry if I was unclear, I&#039;ve been scrambling to get this rally representation pulled off.  Then I went to go phone bank.

That&#039;s a great suggestion for the site, and we&#039;ll try to get that updated now.  Granted, it&#039;s a little late, but maybe not too late, and something to set as a standard for the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sebastian is correct, I didn&#8217;t mean that for individuals, I meant across the whole.  Sorry if I was unclear, I&#8217;ve been scrambling to get this rally representation pulled off.  Then I went to go phone bank.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a great suggestion for the site, and we&#8217;ll try to get that updated now.  Granted, it&#8217;s a little late, but maybe not too late, and something to set as a standard for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/31/why-we-lose-2/#comment-32418</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 03:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t misunderstand Bitter... you&#039;re already doing more than 99% of gun owners.  She&#039;s mentioning that the coalition as a whole, has to do more than one type of thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t misunderstand Bitter&#8230; you&#8217;re already doing more than 99% of gun owners.  She&#8217;s mentioning that the coalition as a whole, has to do more than one type of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: VariableFeedback</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/31/why-we-lose-2/#comment-32415</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 01:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as promoting the idea that the sportsmen&#039;s voting block is large and should be important to a candidate, I can see why attending the rally is important.  However, as I&#039;m already volunteering for the Manion and McCain campaigns, and will be working at the polls all day, their speeches won&#039;t inspire me to do any more work for them. 

Bitter - I disagree that one day isn&#039;t really enough.  If every gun owner spent one day each election working for a candidate, it would make a big difference.  If all somebody can do is one day, all the campaigns would still take it.  That said, working longer obviously helps both the candidate and the pro-gun cause directly.

Again, I&#039;m not trying to disparage any of your efforts, which I think are great, and hopefully will make a difference.  You came and spoke the same night that I was joining a club.  I know that you got a few names for your list, I just wonder how many of them actually follow through.

One recommendation that I have is to add to your PAGunRights.com website a list of all of the campaign offices for the endorsed candidates, as well as contact phone numbers.  That would make it easier to find a local office to work from - as opposed to driving halfway across Bucks County.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as promoting the idea that the sportsmen&#8217;s voting block is large and should be important to a candidate, I can see why attending the rally is important.  However, as I&#8217;m already volunteering for the Manion and McCain campaigns, and will be working at the polls all day, their speeches won&#8217;t inspire me to do any more work for them. </p>
<p>Bitter &#8211; I disagree that one day isn&#8217;t really enough.  If every gun owner spent one day each election working for a candidate, it would make a big difference.  If all somebody can do is one day, all the campaigns would still take it.  That said, working longer obviously helps both the candidate and the pro-gun cause directly.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not trying to disparage any of your efforts, which I think are great, and hopefully will make a difference.  You came and spoke the same night that I was joining a club.  I know that you got a few names for your list, I just wonder how many of them actually follow through.</p>
<p>One recommendation that I have is to add to your PAGunRights.com website a list of all of the campaign offices for the endorsed candidates, as well as contact phone numbers.  That would make it easier to find a local office to work from &#8211; as opposed to driving halfway across Bucks County.</p>
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		<title>By: Bitter</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/31/why-we-lose-2/#comment-32365</link>
		<dc:creator>Bitter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VF:

It&#039;s all part of the same game, whether you are making calls or standing at a rally.  One day of either activity isn&#039;t really enough, but both are useful in their own ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VF:</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all part of the same game, whether you are making calls or standing at a rally.  One day of either activity isn&#8217;t really enough, but both are useful in their own ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/31/why-we-lose-2/#comment-32361</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VariableFeedback:

I understand that.  You&#039;re doing something, and that&#039;s all that matters.  I&#039;m tired of the speeches and the talking points by this time too, but I want to make sure sportsmen are seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VariableFeedback:</p>
<p>I understand that.  You&#8217;re doing something, and that&#8217;s all that matters.  I&#8217;m tired of the speeches and the talking points by this time too, but I want to make sure sportsmen are seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Byrne</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/31/why-we-lose-2/#comment-32357</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and I should say, I DO actually show up to gun rights events; as you know Sebastian; but there are a lot of times where I wonder why I bother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and I should say, I DO actually show up to gun rights events; as you know Sebastian; but there are a lot of times where I wonder why I bother.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Byrne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a sportsman. Oh, I have hunted, and I do shoot in competitions and events; but that&#039;s not why I own guns.

I own guns because it&#039;s easier to kill badguys with them than with my bare hands, or with knives; and I and my family are less likely to be hurt in the process.

You want me to show up? How about getting a politician to listen to guys like me. 

They&#039;re all too chickenshit, near as I can tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a sportsman. Oh, I have hunted, and I do shoot in competitions and events; but that&#8217;s not why I own guns.</p>
<p>I own guns because it&#8217;s easier to kill badguys with them than with my bare hands, or with knives; and I and my family are less likely to be hurt in the process.</p>
<p>You want me to show up? How about getting a politician to listen to guys like me. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re all too chickenshit, near as I can tell.</p>
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		<title>By: VariableFeedback</title>
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		<dc:creator>VariableFeedback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sebastian,

With all due respect to what you are doing, which I think is great, it is much easier for me to show up at the campaign office whenever I have the time and inclination (they always have, at the very least, envelopes that need stuffing and stamping), which is what I have been doing for the last few federal election cycles.  If I weren&#039;t going to be out of town this weekend, I would probably attend the rally.  Honestly, though, sitting in a crowd and hearing the same speech that is given in many other places at many other times just doesn&#039;t excite me.  I&#039;d rather do some work in a campaign office, or hold signs up outside a debate location.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sebastian,</p>
<p>With all due respect to what you are doing, which I think is great, it is much easier for me to show up at the campaign office whenever I have the time and inclination (they always have, at the very least, envelopes that need stuffing and stamping), which is what I have been doing for the last few federal election cycles.  If I weren&#8217;t going to be out of town this weekend, I would probably attend the rally.  Honestly, though, sitting in a crowd and hearing the same speech that is given in many other places at many other times just doesn&#8217;t excite me.  I&#8217;d rather do some work in a campaign office, or hold signs up outside a debate location.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.pagunblog.com/2008/10/31/why-we-lose-2/#comment-32340</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Less:

Thanks a lot.  I would appreciate any advice you have.  I would be happy if I had 20 die-hards.  Elated, in fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Less:</p>
<p>Thanks a lot.  I would appreciate any advice you have.  I would be happy if I had 20 die-hards.  Elated, in fact.</p>
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